im in a little argument with my friend on what counts as sarging?
ok, say you work at jewel, like my friend does
does it count as opening when a cashier(which is what my friend does) opens the customers?
personally i dont think it counts because the customers are actually opening you, they're the ones commming up to you, the cashier is like the target, and the customers the pua's
this was becoming an interesting discussion and i wanted your thoughts on it, any takers?

If you are actively persuing a girl that you are interested in then it counts as sarging. I certainly see your point that he's going to get asked questions as part of his job, and that doesn't necessarily mean she's interested. However, if he starts running routines and things in order to build attraction then he's sarging.

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If it ends in a F*ck close or a number close or a kiss close then it's sarging. To me it's not how you meet these women, it how you close these women.

Jesus I think with this to put it politely if you need to ask if you've been sarging then its a NO.... but seeing as its a newbie forum I'll elaborate.

Sarging is going out with the sole intention of opening sets, meeting people regardless of gender for social interaction, meeting girls with the intention of dating or laying them.

Working as a Cashier wherever and speaking to customers is called "Customer Service" or "Flirting" certainly not sarging at any degree... Talking to a girl at a shopping mall is in my opinion is debatable, I just call it Day-Game as opposed to sarging... sarging to me is winging up with someone, hitting a lounge or club, having a good time, being the life of the party and getting a little "something somthing" at the end of the night or a bridge to a Day 2 with a girl.

Hope that helps - no intention of sounding agressive here, just that this is a 'really' basic question (in my opinion)

oh no you werent aggresive sounding at all,
like i said, i personaly thought it didnt count as sarging
my friend and i were just talking about what would be considered sarging and waht wouldnt be, and one thing led to another and then this whole debate started

i told him the customer service point too, but he gave me some bs on how he was making it different by going out of his way to talk to them, but whatever
any more thoughts on this topic would be welcomed

Honestly, who cares if it counts as sarging or not?

Will it improve his social skills? Yes.
Will it help him learn about people? Yes.
Will he get numbers? Perhaps.
Will he get a relationship from it? Perhaps.

Sounds good enough to me. I used to work in a job that contributed a great deal to my knowledge and skills, because I had to go into people's houses and deal with pissed off people quite a lot. You learn how to get a pissed off person that is threatening you and/or your company with lawsuites and $100,000 re-embursements placated and instead thrilled with the service you are giving them, then you learn some good stuff. Who the hell cares if it's sarging or not? I could have even gotten some numbers from the job, but there were strict one strike you're fired policies against that, so I just learned the social skills instead.

Now if you're purely interested in mental masturbation, then "no", I don't consider it sarging if it's customers. I was planning on bartending in clubs while I went to school (probably won't happen now cause of certain events, but that's beside the point) and I wouldn't consider that sarging, although I'm it would be much easier to get girls with that job.

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Sarging = going out to cold approach

If you work behind the counter and you flirt with customers, that's just flirting with customers.

ok. i'm the friend that grayfox is talking about. i'm the cashier at jewel. and he totally misunderstood what i was talking about. this all started because he's going to sarge with a guy this friday. now he and i got into PUA at the same time but for different reasons. he was looking for a way to pick up chicks, i was looking for a way to finalize something i had going on with this girl. this girl is now my girlfriend which is explains my lack of posts here. gray fox though continued with the PUA studies.


the issue at hand is that he won't take credit for an open he pulled at potbelly one day. cute petite blonde behind the counter. she looked bored and tired and he decided to use a canned opener. at first she thought it was just another stupid question from a customer. but when she saw that i was a question that required some thought on her part, she was all ears. i told him that it was a good open. but he said it wasn't because she was working and therefore it didn't count.

what i tried to tell him is that people who work jobs in which they have direct contact with the general public get really bored of it really fast. theres all of the assholes who argue prices or take long as hell to decide whether its credit or debit. sure a few people do flirt with the customers but thats just something to pass the time. we don't really have to say anything. all i have to do is say "do you have a savings card?", scan the items, and tell them the total. very tedious. now if a customer came to me and said something like "who do you think lies more, girls or guys?" i would be more suceptible to take the bait because its a question that requires my personal opinion and makes it seem like they actually want to listen to me. i'm sure that i'm not the only person who feels the same way. jobs like these are repetitive and mind numbing. having someone open us is a fun distraction from the grind. it makes that cutomer stand ot, seem more interesting, and you want to talk more.


main point: working customer service and saying "hi do you have a jewel card?" is not sarging. opening the cute girl behind the counter at potbelly or starbucks can be considered sarging if the intent of the open was the pick up.

Yeah, that's sarging. In some situations the girl behind the counter would even be considered a hired gun, like certain restaurants where the waitresses are picked for their looks, such as Hooters. Hell some Starbucks I've been in had ridiculously hot girls and I consider them hired guns, cause it defintely draws more guys to the store on a repeat basis. Hot girls working in clothing stores can be considered hired guns, cause half of their job is to make you feel like buying the clothes they are selling will let you get girls like that.

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