I'm writing this in order to get clarity on a situation - sometimes it's good to organize the thoughts in your head by getting them out. Also, although the story is coming from my point of view I could get opinions or different interpretations and perhaps a better angle as to what exactly is going on.

I apologize in advance for the length of the post. But, for the new guys it could be helpful in picking up girls - for the mPUAs it could be material for you to critique.



There was a very attractive girl in my class (college) last semester, easily a HB9. I noticed a ring on her finger so I didn't pursue it (I'll respect another man's woman and won't give it a second thought). I thought she was engaged/taken. She wasn't. Turns out it was a promise ring - she wore it to "wait for the right guy." Anyway she stopped wearing it halfway through the semester so I thought she was ok to game.

She had a guy friend that would come to class with and stand outside talking to him everyday. I could tell she was interested in me by the eye contact she would give me and she would raise her voice a little so I could always hear their conversations - of course it was always about guys, relationships, etc...

I wussed out ONCE while gaming her, but other than that I feel like I played it the right way (I don't say perfectly because there is no perfect way right? Every girl is different. Each game is situational.). She was talking loud enough for me to hear to her guy friend about a guy she was dating. She was talking something along the lines of the guy didn't respect her standards, yadda yadda yadda, he called me cute - can you believe that? Cute. Ughhh. yadda yadda. "I feel like I have the worst luck with guys!" ----> This is where I wussed out. I know she was saying it loud enough for me to hear because of the eye contact. I was thinking in my head just say "Well, you only need to get lucky once." But I didn't, that's the only time I wussed out. I think that would have been a perfect line to meet her on.

So how did we meet? Well, luckily that guy would always be there with her (a former boyfriend - she so kindly let me know through a clearly audible voice... also how I found out she was single). The best way to meet her is to become friends with the guy. So I did. I would interact with him, slightly ignoring her - giving her a few negs to make the guy laugh whenever she talked. Needless to say I had her hooked.

How do I know I had her hooked? I performed a test.

I would always make contact with her and smile before we went into class. In class she and her friend would sit directly behind me. I made sure never to start a conversation with her, instead I would turn around and talk directly to him, sort of freezing her out. EVERYTIME I turned around she would say something to me - trying to extend the conversation. She would compliment what I was wearing, ask questions about me, etc... I always stuck it with CF. She passed the test, she was hooked.

Another thing I didn't mean to omit was a huge conversation starter between us: books. I love to read (and so does she), by habit I carry a book around that I'm currently reading and subsequently to class. I'd have a new one each week and it turns out we've been reading a lot of the same books. This is an important part of the story.

Unfortunately, all of this occurred at the end of the semester. And the very last day I think she just broke and basically wanted me to do something about all of it without directly saying it. Here's how the conversation went on the last day...

Her: Whacha reading now?
Me: Blah blah blah.
Her: You know, I think we'd be really good friends. We read a lot of the same books and it makes me smile (yeah, she really said that!).
Me: Yeah *with my irresistible smile* (looking back on it I should have said something CF along the lines of "now what makes you think that you'd be a really good friend?" etc.... -- sorry guys let you down on that one)

conversation continues and somehow gets on the subject of facebook. I wanted to give her one more test to she if she was DESPERATELY interested - I wanted her to add me as a friend on facebook (not me add).

Me: You know, I'm really easy to find on facebook. I'm the only ***** ******* at this school (I have a pretty unique name -- was trying to throw her hints to look me up and add me).
Her: Yeah, my friends said they couldn't find me because my profile was set to private.


So now I think she's going to find me and add me. She failed, she never added me. A week after school was out for the summer I gave in and found her and added her. It's not exactly what I had in mind. Now to keep it CF I wrote her a short and brief message:
Of course she ate it up. She wrote a long message of different types of books I should read (although I read 80% of them).

I think here's where I went AFC on her. I talked about the books, small talk, in the message and didn't leave it CF and asked what she was doing for the summer (I set it up to talk about the fact I was going out of country (DHV) and we could meet up when I get back). But she never responded. I think she lost interest or gained interest in somebody else (judging by some photos on her facebook).

I came back from out of country and did another CF message about reading and got no response.... until today. It took her a little over a month to respond to that message.


My questions are:

Did she lose interest in the other guy (if there was one)? Is she interested again? There has to be SOME reason why she messaged me after a month... I mean I had to be on her mind....

How would you go about this? I'm trying to find the smoothest way of meeting up with her... so I need to capture her attention again in whatever I send back (in a few days) in order to meet up with her.

I was thinking about negging her a little in my message using hers. I can tell y'all what her message says if you want. It was just another book suggestion... but if you want I can also post it.

Did you use any kino? I think you left it too long to move the relationship onto the next step. From what im hearing you were in the building attraction stage for far too long. You should have built some comfort, kino then set up a date and isolate her. I don't know why you didn't do this as you were getting so many IOI's

You're right, I think I did stay in the attraction stage for too long - that lesson is learned. I've never really practiced kino, but I've also never failed because I didn't use kino. BUT, I do think kino is a powerful tool that I'm not using and need to incorporate into MY game.

And yes, I do think I was getting a ridiculous amount of IOIs. I guess in the back of my mind I was thinking I definitely have her hooked so I don't have to work anymore to "catch" her. I was wrong.

Is there anyway to recover from this?
Do I send an uninterested message back and move on?
Or should I start over and try again?