hey guys, hows it going..I've got this problem im trying to overcome and i think im going blank on what i need to do to succeed..maybe some of you elite PUA's can help me out..as im kinda new to the PUA life..i get girls..but wouldnt consider myself an artist just yet

well i started this new job the beginning of the year..so obviously i made new friends..was brought into a new 'circle of friends' and whatnot...Well, the weekends come and everyone from work goes to the 'party house' (single mom and her daughters..a 21 year old, 17, and the 21 year olds 2 yr old boy) Well obviously my coworkers told the mom that theyd be bringing a new worker and she agreed..FYI shes a MILF..and at the time the 21 year old was sleeping with a coworker of mine..long story short..that night i sleep with the mom..the friend moves outta state..the 21 year old is interested in me..but doesnt wanna have sex with me bc ive slept with her mom.

It sucks..whenever i go over..i get her in bed..we makeout..start touching..but when i start to undress her..shes like i cant do it..youve been with my mom..blah blah..thats so white trash..haha

any tips guys

the only thing i could think of is just to pursue her interest and start a relationship with her..i dont wanna do that..bc thats like the easy way out i guess..

all help will be greatly appreciated

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im not sure if this is in the right section..if not, i do apologize

anyone care to share any insight?

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Hmmmm, thats deffinately a new one to me. I imagine if you can get her as close to having sex with you as you are, that it IS possible. I'm tryin' to think of something to say to her for that situation though. Theres not a whole lot of convincing that can be done. If she thinks its weird that you slept with her mom, then I doubt that theres much you can say to change her opinion.

Yes, there is something you could do. It works for most LMR (Last minute Resistance) women throw at you, I am not sure if it is the correct name, but I think it is called a freeze out...

Basically, you start making out with her and go as far as you can, then the second she mentions not wanting to sleep with you, you agree with her and then sit back and sort of ignore her a little (maybe do something like turn the lights back on and just turn on the TV and watch a show). This works because when you were making out etc. she probably felt good and was enjoying the feeling... then when you "freeze out" she feels nothing and wants to feel good again, so she will then go to you.

Keep doing this until you get what you want. btw that situation your in is awesome!!!

thanks a lot for your help guys..ive been doing stuff like that before (freeze out that is)..like we'd be making out and stuff..and i'll get her really into it and then ill just pull away and wrap my arm around her and watch tv..would that be "freezing out"; im assuming no bc im still touching her after i stopped.. the few times shes said "it would be weird" or whatever id just change the subject..get a massage and pass the fuck out..haha

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Wow if you want to JUST fuck this girl keep trying it will happen, but dont go and try and have a relationship with her she's never going to fully trust you again and it will ALWAYS be weird.

I'd go with a freeze out and yeah, you have to stop touching her completely. The best way to execute a freeze out, is by changing your body language dramatically, so that there is a palpable change to the feeling between the two of you and that you're not interested.

If you're making out laying on the bed, with you somewhat on top, then roll off, stop touching her completely from anywhere above the knees and if your feet are touching, remain still, no footsies. If your legs were touching, then it's not entirely neccessary to pull completely away, cause your legs aren't gonna give her any comfort, merely make her want the rest of your body to touch her more. Now the reason why you do this, is because like I said, you don't want to be giving her comfort, so if she asks you what's up, you don't keep the same sweet tone of voice, you just say stuff in a normal tone of voice. She's gonna realise that she isn't playing by the rules and that she doesn't get to keep playing, so she'll stop fooling around and get your attention and interest again.

Now, she may not show any more resistance, but if she does, then switch to a more passionate approach and either turn her right on to the point where she stops caring about stupid details, or tell her something that will make her realise its' ok. As long as she doesn't freak out, or seriously tell you to stop, then you just keep on slowly increasing things and get her really turned on by kissing her everywhere but spots that she'll stop you from going, use your nails down her back and up her spine, small bites and stuff and she won't care who you've slept with. Or you can say stuff like, "Well you were with _______ otherwise I think we'd have gotten together first" and such.

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Thanks for breaking it down like that Rye Lee..I appreciate it buddy..ill keep at it..although I think im starting to break her down..as she's constantly texting me on a daily basis asking me to come over..or vice versa..

Also, she now texts me daily and is like "makeour session"..what do you guys think about that. do you think she's finally coming around..or does she just find my kisses that pleasurable?

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Could be either, hard to tell from just that. I'd just make sure not to jump to comply with her and instead find some other things to do in order to take up your time and keep you from being available all the time for her cravings. Then when you do make it, she'll be extra interested and much easier to turn on enough to make the push for home base.

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oh I don't reply to all her texts..I was just saying that I get those a lot.

another thing that I have against me is that she knows I get and have been with a lot girls..so now im debating whether trying to portray the "looking for a relationship" bit would work here

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I'd only go that route if you ARE looking for a relationship. Honesty is the best policy.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

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