I have seen sooo much PUA info, however most of it relates to issues like opening, closing, how to portray confidence etc etc. There isn't so much information on actually having an interesting discussion topics or how to invent a discussion from nowhere, this is a problem i have. My mind goes blank after 40 seconds of chat or whatever, i have nothing to say and thats it, game over.

Its easy with your friends cus you know what they're interested in etc. but when its someone you just met it gets tricky, any tips guys?

If you've already hooked her and gotten IOIs, I suggest throwing open-ended questions. Maybe something along the lines of "What's something you've always wanted to learn, but never had the time or money to actually go do?". Follow up with "why's that?" or "how come?" and, of course, reward answers with kino.

With OEQs, consider what you'd say if they asked (and make sure you have something interesting). Usually, she will, and even if she doesn't you can still give your answer to add to the convo.

yea i have the same problem man

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nice to know man, what the fuck do i talk about with 17 yr old girls?
The confidence isn't so much of a problem, its finding something to talk about.

Try and have a few dhv stories, succint ones that don't erode her interest due to lengthiness,
but the real aim is to get her to tell her dhv stories in turn, to get her to qualify herself, so therefore the issue of 'what to talk about' can be partially helped by getting her to do half the work.

Conversation topics are hard to improvise i agree, but to some extent you can do something more kino-ish, if you have got to that point, if words fail you, try a psychological test or something to ease up the situation and create something to talk about as a result. If you haven't got to that point then trying one that doesn't involve touch or close proximity would be more appropriate, especially if it's one that may evoke a comedic response through suprise. Good luck.

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The best thing to do, is just to be talkative. Be curious, be interesting and just have fun with it.

You're saying that it's easy with your friends because you know what they like... How about.. talking about something you like? Convey your personality.

Also, I advice you to read How to Be a Pickup Artist, by Juggler. He focuses a lot on conversational techniques.

Im 17 too, and i find conversing with 17 yr old girls pretty easy. First of all you would most likely be in a quiet place thus allowed to converse for long periods of time, so you constantly find yourself with an odd silence following her long rant about the question you may have asked her. What you HAVE to do after she has been going for a while is interrupt when her energy level seems to be dropping and come in at a higher energy level and talk about the subject at hand. Thus the subject must be something you are passionate or care for. After giving your reply you would have likely hinted at another trait in your personality which wil spawn another thread.


Example:

Lori(thats me)- Have you ever tried scuba diving?(random-just to be quick)
Hot girl- bla bla bla scuba diving bla bla bla never got the chance bla bla bla (I interrupt because she's been going on for 3 minutes and if I dont interrupt now Ill lose touch with the subject)
Lori- yeah scuba diving always seemed so fun so i tried it out last summer, the sense of the unknown in the deep sea was vast, as if anything and everything could happen(creating mystery in a convo is essential to keeping girls interested).

By taking control of the convo back from the girl and justifying why I asked such a random question I justify the conversation and with the last sentence I now have the opportunity to open a completely different thread along the lines of what has surprised me the most or scared me the most- notice how both threads link to the sense of mystery i built up whilst talking about scuba diving.

With young girls it is essential to have quick and exciting convos in which you have alot to say also without appearing try hard. Although older women will forgive you for a long conversation which rewards in the end a younger girl wont allow you to finish a longer convo because she will lose interest.

(ps sorry for any spelling errors i wrote this real quick)

Sweet post, thanks man.

btw, i'm 16 but I want to game 17 year olds, I feel their just a little closer to my level of maturity.

excellent post FreeAce, very informative and opened my eyes to new shit i never heared before

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you're welcome man, new to the community and hope to be bringing you all a bunch of field reports, look out for that! #1

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