I'm cooking dinner, wear some scruffy jeans and a tight vest. I've recently decorated my house, it looks like an ikea showroom, leather suite with cheice, 40" sony bravia the works. I have a nice home but I cant get any women back to appreciate it. I'm 6' tall, I work out and have quite a good physique. But I have never been blessed with confidence. I seriously suck when it comes to talking to women, I'll act all cocky around my friends but if a hb9 comes along I shut up lol.

Getting off track. This hb9 knocks the door. I open and she immediately tells me she's not selling anything. She introduces herself and she represents a national charity for disabled children. She shows me her id and i know the charity so I say sure, I can make a monthly donation.

She asks if she can come in and she seems to be showing me some IOIs, now I'm fully aware that it may be her job to be this way to get me to donate and sign etc.

hb9: so do you know anyone with disabilities or have anyone in your family who is disabled?
me: no, no one I can think of
hb9: you must have good genes? (with a smile)
me: (I stand up and show her my jeans) what these?
hb9: laughs

We chat some more it turns out she's from Leeds and she asks me about where I'm originally from and my last job, where I work all those sorts of things. So I try to DHV by talking about my plans to develop my own company etc but I try to sound like I'm not trying to impress her with it, rather its something I beleive in.

Next she fills in the form.

Hb9: so how old are you?
me: 28
hb9: you dont look old enough!
(she's about 19 - 20)

All throughout she's smiling. She occasionally touches her hair and eventually comments on ym nice home. She then hands me the form for me to complete. Now I am aware this is over analyzing but she did touch my finger as she hands it to me.

hb: so what do you have planned for tonight?
me: umm, nothing

and I carry on and complete the form.

When its all complete we both stand up and talk a little more about what happens next but she stands facing me and maybe a little closer than what I would consider comfortable. At this stage I'm thinking "how do I get her number?" and as times slipping away I keep trying to think of ways, things to say, things I have read on these forums from the game but they're all too forward and would have been in appropriate for that situation. She says bye and wishes me all the best and she's gone.

I honestly want to punch myself int he face for being such a wuss. However...

I typed her name into facebook and there she is. Feeling rather linke a stalker I looked at her pictures and its her. She's 19 nearly 20, has long blonde hair and a really nice smile. My first instinct is that if I do anything to contact her on facebook, she's gonna think creepy stalker guy, but having said that, when she was here I got the impression she was attracted to me.

Do I forget this one (I'm happy to do if I dont have a chance of rescuing this)?

Or do I poke her or message her?

If yes, then how do I go about it, should I poke her and wait for a poke back, and if so, how do I follow this up. What ever you guys suggest I will try and report back.

Am new but, I'd say definitely don't contact her on facebook as you met her in a 'business' kind of environment rather than a social one. I think it would be very AFC and needy to chase her up via that route. Do you know any of her friends?

Take the experience away that HB9 showed interest and IOI in you to boost your confidence next time you meet a HB! You mentioned normally you go all quiet so learn from this and be more comfortable in the future.

Can see improve on the, what are you doing tonight?- Show your a busy man.

I dunno, personally I think you're over analysing the whole thing to be honest... she was just doing her job. Those collection girls try to stop me in the street all the damn time and when I do stop they're always really flirty. The ones going door to door are the same. Commenting on your home, asking you about what you do and all that stuff is simple rapport building and they're taught to do that to get more people to make donations. They don't make any commission from you signing up so strictly speaking it isn't sales, but they are still taught basic sales psychology. As for asking about your plans for that night, she was probably just being friendly. I've done door to door sales and while someone is filling out a form it's really awkward if you sit there and don't say anything, so you pretty much just talk about whatever you can to fill dead air.

As for messaging her on facebook, yeah... that's mega creepy. If you see her again in person you can game her, but don't message her online or anything.

see if you have any groups or anything like that in common if not, join a group she is in. something realistic you might join though, not her company group..lol. unless it has a charity website or something like that, you could join to show your support.

no point going into what you should of done and that but, i would go for it. what have you got to lose, alphas don't think about being a stalker. either you get a msg back or you dont. read in the online sarging forums for some ideas. i think using your own material is better then using forums or books, since anyone could come on here and find it. if you like her just take your time to figure out what you want to say and that. never know she might have stalked you already..?

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OK thanks you guys. Dont get me wrong, I'm not hung up on this gal, I just want to exploit any opportunity to game that I can get and as this opportunity fell on my lap, I thought why not.

Dalziel, I know these girls are supposed to be flirty but I could see a difference. Well thats the thought I'm going to hold onto to improve my inner game atleast. She wanted me lol. Yep she definitely did lol.

I like your attitude dazz. Inner game is critical to your overall presentation and a lot of guys seem to overlook the importance of it, so you've definately got the right way of thinking. If she was into you, think how fucking hot she was and how easy it'll be to get girls like her now that you know they're attracted to you.