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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:32 am 
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Lets be clear. When you have a prospect on deck there has to be a good connection between the two in order for you to hit it on the first date. What works for me is when I take a girl out to a full date (dinner, bowling, etc,) I demonstrate a lot of value by making her laugh, making her feel comfortable , and listening to the various stupid shit that woman like to talk about. After were done hanging out, I ask them if they would be intrested in watching a movie or something at my house. Once their at my place, this is the steps I take in making magic happen.

1. Making sure the room is nice and clean. Before i even leave my house going on a date, I make sure my place is clean because i know its a great chance i'll be asking them to come.

2. Being patient. Dont be so thirsty because you got some pussy in your room. Relax a bit. laugh with her and share a couple of jokes. After shes feeling loose and comfortable, take her to a place where theres privacy such as a room or something.

3. The Movie- From there, proceed to putting on a movie preferbily something that would grab her attention. IE no American Pie. Put on something with a little bit of action maybe some with some sex.

4. Move 1. Den the lights. Once the lights is denned, make sure you move close to her so theres some friction happening.

5. Move 2. Put your arm around her slowly. From this point on, if shes really comfortable with you, she'll embrace it. Once she embraces that arm, its on.

6. Move 3. Go for the kiss. Once the kiss is estblished, and if your good, her body will be hot as hell and the temperture will be rising.

7. Move 4. Lastly, kiss on the neck and offer to go for a massage and from that point on, you should know what to do.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:04 pm 
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Good tut but i have a few problems with it. Once a target agrees to come back to your place, you're already half way there so that negates the need to offer things like massages. Once you get a target back to your place, you just need to build comfort, build more attraction, kino the shit out of her and one you manage to get a kiss, the f-close should only be a matter of time.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:59 am 
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To be perfectly honest, although I'm sure it works for you (just as dinner and a movie works for some guys), that's about half PUA tactics and half AFC tactics.

Drop the dinner unless you are splitting it and you actually wanted to eat somewhere, don't do it just to take her to dinner, cause that's completely expected and the opposite route we encourage you to take. You'd better be splitting the bill on the bowling.

A very important question is WHY ON EARTH would you sit there and "listen to the various stupid shit that woman like to talk about"?! You're OBVIOUSLY not interested by the way you phrase it, so that's a silly thing to do. Talk about shit that you're BOTH gonna find interesting, or stuff that you find interesting and that she can at least see that you find interesting, but don't listen to crap that you don't care about, because that's lowering your value and a waste of your precious time.

Steps 1 & 2 are good.

3 is ok if you want to watch a movie, but if your reason for putting on the movie is to have sex, then why bother with the movie, take an alternate route that doesn't require you to pull her attention away from the movie, as well as going through the trouble of setting up a movie and watching part of it.

Step 4 is ok, but unneccessary. I prefer to have the lights on so that I can see things better, but if you're into dimmed lights and getting her into a more romantic mindset (this is gonna cause her to be more relationship oriented I'll warn you), then go for it.

Step 5.... Wait....you're JUST NOW putting your arm around her? You are doing it SLOWLY so as to not startle her or something? WTF?! You should have been touching her all night, so that you can just plop down, toss your arm around her and have no issue. Hell, if I'm gonna watch a movie with a chick, I'm gonna do it on my bed and be spooning her, or on my couch and have her half in my lap.

Step 6 could have happened much much earlier, but I'll grant that there are girls that took nearly 3 hours before they were ready to properly kiss. I'd advise you to push your boundries and do this a lot earlier if the signs are there (which they would be, if you were doing more kino during the night, instead of waiting till you're watching a movie).

Step 7 is kinda backwards IMO. I wouldn't start kissing her in more sensual places, then discuss massages, that's generally what I'd be doing during the massage. I personally enjoy giving massages, so I occassionally offer them, but 90% of the time, I do so with an exchange occuring, otherwise she is getting more than she's giving and SHE'S got to EARN the sex, not the other way around. If you're only doing massages in order to escalate, then you are wasting your time, because you can escalate a lot easier, quicker and more effectively (massages relax you, instead of amping up the tension like you are wanting to do) by just touching her in various places while you are making out and then slip your hands under her shirt to touch bare skin (don't go straight for her bra clasp, breasts, pussy or ass, the idea is just to increase sexual tension so that she starts trying to fuck you with your clothes on). After you've made out for a few minutes or more, you can get her clothes off (remember hers first, not yours) then get down to it.

Conclusions

All in all, I think your method is pretty round about and could be much more direct. This isn't neccessarily a bad thing if that's what you enjoy! BUT, if you are only doing it because you think that all this stuff is needed to achieve your goal, then you're wasting a lot of time, energy and coming off as more of a relationship kinda guy, so she's probably gonna get more attached, which is one things I hear guys constantly complaining about.

You don't talk about kino at all until you're back at your place, so you aren't building attraction very heavily during the whole interaction (or at the beginning for those of you running the M3 Model), but instead working on building comfort so that she will ALLOW you to make moves. She shouldn't be allowing you to make moves, she should be craving them and hoping that she's being good enough that you will oblige her. You could probably cut a lot of bullshit out if you had her more attracted and not thinking you are looking for a serious relationship (unless those are your goals, but even then you still don't need to do all this stuff) before you make some real attempts at moving things along physically. Trust me, girls want to be touched and it actually makes the interactions a lot more comfortable for both parties if you start touching right off the bat (I always great with a hug or kiss) instead of waiting till later. It only grows more uncomfortable the longer you hang out without touching.[/b]

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