Hey guys, so I know this is strongly unrecommended, but I really wanna see if it can be done... I have a bunch of friends that are girls who I really wanna hook up with, one in particular that I kinda have a thing for. I know it sounds super AFC and all, but trust, its not really what it seems. I don't really hang around these girls to much anymore, but back in the day I spent a substantial amount of time with each girl (as friends). I don't really pay attention to our friendship anymore, BUT, when we're at parties, I still feel this "Friendship Barrier" between us and I can't seem to break it

The obviously thing I thought to do was just ignore the fact that you have this friendship and game them like any other random HB... I tryed this and boys, It did not work.

First off, my negs were useless, I'm pretty sure because of the fact that they know me and thought I was just playing around. They also seemed pretty confused because they've never seen me on this level.

Secondly, they kept pulling me into conversations that threw me off game. For example they kept talking about some of the crazy parties I had way back when, OR, something that we did together a year ago. Unknowingly, I would fall into a huge conversation exchanging stories, and more stories, and even more stories, until I completely forget my objective. Believe me I tried to get my game back on track, but it just wouldn't happen.

Finally, if I did manage to isolate and DHV, they would show signs of enjoyment, but the IOI's just weren't there. I got this vibe that if I were to do something like kiss, they would get all weirded out because WE ARE "friends"... I know I shouldn't trust those vibes, but fuck, its a tricky situation; If i do successfully close AWESOME! but if i try and fail... shit would just be weird between me and that girl from then on, and it would be one hell of an awkward summer...

but I guess thats the risk you take when you try and Sarge your friends...

Anyways I don't know what else to do, it would be righteous if you guys could help me out.

P.S
One of my buddies who's also in the community gave me some advice to use strong Kino. I havn't tryed it yet, I'll give it a shot tonight.

Cheers

I'm a guy that likes to sleep with my female friends but am instantly lost when it doesn't happen from the get go. That said, i have managed to convert friend to fuck buddy once or twice and it's not really advice just experience. i find being open about it helps, be sure they know that they're a choice not a necessity and just ask out right. once you decide to fuck a friend you've never fucked before, it's pretty much do or die and conservation of the friendship needs to be the furthest thing from your mind.