I was browsing this forum as i have been for the last month or so when it hit me, Why do we need to learn all this?. Why do women dominate us?. Do they have to learn all this stuff? NO. Why are they naturally the ones we have to chase? they are inbuilt with pua skills because they get the same shit day in day out. but were busting our asses learning all this shit just so theyll fuck us?i think we should follow one simple rule and realize the truth, there is only one of YOU on this entire planet, your a man,women should be chasing you NOT the other way round! i think its absolute bullshit. just some random ideas anyway.

In my opinion they do the same thing.

Look in any woman's magazine, drop on a girls night in, girls over lunch. If it's a non professional environment the conversation will always come back to men/sex/relationships.

It's the old cliche that the heart has no master and it's our logical minds that are trying to do so - the eternal battle means that we will remain in competition with ourselves to understand the opposite sex and how to best deal with them.

If you had women approaching you all the time, would you approach other women? My guess is probably not, unless they were really something special (which you would have had to judge purely on looks).

Women don't approach people very often because they don't have to, so it's left up to us to do it.

Looks like someone is going to be single for a long time.

Haha, i wasnt saying i was being dominated, infact by no means,i was just thinking how thousands upon thousands of men are rejected every day when women get it when they want..

If, by "us", you mean the average man, it's because the average man lets them do it because he is afraid of losing her interest if he stands up to her shit.

Men want women to like them. They want girls to think of them as a nice guy so they'll tell all their friends how nice he is. Unfortunately something within these ideas got lost in translation and men decided that in order to be nice they had to be polite all the time, supplicate to the womans needs, put her on a pedestal and worship her. Paying a woman compliments, asking her out on a date, buying her shit and doing things when it suits her just to make her like you so she will sleep with you? Give me a break. That stuff is only for women you're in a relationship with already. In all probability she has one of more guys doing that to try and win her affection already, so why add yourself to that list? Stand the fuck out. She's used to guys behaving like that all her life and has lost all respect for that type of man. She wants a man who knows what he wants and goes for it... someone who knows he doesn't need to buy her shit and take her out to show her a good time. It's called having balls.

I see what you mean lion, simply why are we the ones chasing and not the other way round? well some countrys it is the other way round, take most middle eastern countrys for example, dudes have like 3 wives and they compete to cook him the best meal every night, how sweet would that be? but the point of being a pua is turning the tables, learning what they know and much more. then we'll see whos being dominated. haha.

Not quite that simple I'm afraid. Stereotype time: Guys want sex, girls want relationships. And that means neither just gets "it". The problem for a girl is not finding someone, it's finding someone who will give her a relationship, support her etc. In some ways that's a harder problem to have to solve because the guy might say some nice words but he's just using it to get you into bed. I think that's why (morally) it's so important to be honest up front with girls if you're not looking for a LTR.

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you might be just focusing on hot girls, ya we gotta chase them but what about the unattractive ones? they barely get hit on, plus that most of them have awful game to begin with, even hot girls have ugly game, but we put up with it for the sake of getting laid, like david d. says, we guys are very lucky, girls go for personality, but if a girl is unattractive theres very little she can do to win a guy over

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This is a paramount topic actually, and more relevant today than ever. In many ways I'd echo Dalziel's comments, but the bottom line is that female "emancipation" has, in most western countries, become nothing more than the following equation:

"emancipation" = bitchy, arrogant feminists who must dominate men

However, thankfully you should NOT assume that it's exactly the same in all western countries. Although the trend is prevalent and growing, it's less deeply entrenched in some cultures compared to others.

I found the U.S. to be the worst, and the UK about the same (but with even fewer good-looking women), which is not suprising when you consider how much the two countries have converged culturally.

The whole "war of the sexes" thing is pretty much an American invention it would seem. It's become America's dirty little secret that it's the NORM, at least in upper-middle class circles, for the woman to dominate and the man to be suppliant- and I mean in established relationships too. It made me sick to see how many of my friends felt compelled to introduce their wives etc. as "my better half" etc. at parties and such...what bullshit...finally I left. I can't tolerate the idea of a woman dominating me and the majority of American women would not respect or accept that (Yes, there are exceptions, but far too few). With so many men bowing down to them, they don't need to consider otherwise. It's similar in Germany unfortunately (but not in Poland...yeah!)

I like the idea of equality in a relationship; I refuse to bow down and worship some girl who probably isn't as intelligent as I am anyway, just because she looks sexy and I want to bang her.

The good news is, the few girls out there who are attractive AND not obnoxious or evil will accept your strength and even be more attracted to you for being strong and independent. Girls like that are wonderful and deserve to be treated with caring and respect.

Okay, I know this was long but it is an absolutely crucial topic and totally germane to we few, we happy few, we band of brothers.

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Even tho women for the most part get to do the picking. They do not always get what they want.

Actually its the average girls that get hit on the most, not the hot attractive ones.

Finally, someone who gets it. You're exactly right. This is pretty much because guys are intimidated by better looking girls, or they assume that the best looking ones are already taken, or that they need to be really cool and original to get her attention. It seems like most guys look at her as more special just because she's beautiful. They think they don't have what it takes based on the assumption that she is shallow or has high standards. They stand around in groups and talk about how hot she is. They talk about how much they wanna fuck her and laugh and high five each other. If they put as much effort into going up to the girl and saying hi they might actually get somewhere... guys tell me all the time that I'm crazy for approaching hot girls. These are the same guys who wolf whistle and shout across the street asking for their numbers. Who is really the crazy one here?

Quoted for truth.