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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:32 pm 
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Well tonight I took a look at my Facebook in which so called friends rated me 'Boring as a Brick'(which Im not) and 3.6 out of 10 looks wise.
Lets face it Im fucked, its my destiny to never be accepted and always be rejected in every walk of life.
I ask myself daily what Ive done to deserve such a pointless existance, considering Ive escaped death when I was younger makes it that more despicable why I was kept alive just to be shit on at every opportunity.


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Are you sure your friends weren't just jokin'? It is something my friends would do just for a bit of banter, and I would return the favour by rating them even lower. You should mention though they may have meant it as a joke it has actually touched a nerve.

Are these actual friends? Or just people on Facebook? As I wouldn't consider 90% of people on my Facebook as a friend - just people I know from high school, college, etc.

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Are you sure your friends weren't just jokin'? It is something my friends would do just for a bit of banter, and I would return the favour by rating them even lower. You should mention though they may have meant it as a joke it has actually touched a nerve.

Are these actual friends? Or just people on Facebook? As I wouldn't consider 90% of people on my Facebook as a friend - just people I know from high school, college, etc.

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It was someone I knew like(not sure who but all my contacts are people I know) maybe it was a joke just the way things are going at the moment.


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It was someone I knew like(not sure who but all my contacts are people I know) maybe it was a joke just the way things are going at the moment.
Yeah, sometimes things can get on top of you, if the friend that said it didn't know you were having a hard time at the moment then they may not have realised what they were doing could hurt you.

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Stop whining, start meditating:D If they mean this, they prolly are as insecure as you may feel right now. Hanging around with people who would see you as boring is just mixing with the wrong crowd;) Thinking bout this. To get chicks you rly have to start changing the perception of the world. Things like this are just moments that could get the best of you, but you do that to yourself... Those things are just challenges you have to face. And its not a loss, if u want to change this you could just ask why they think you are boring and force their honest oppinions, that way you learn;)

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Meditation is not the universal cure all, but it does help. As for a look rating on facebook I would just shrug that shit off, the first pic I put on Hot or Not got rated a 3.2, and I know I'm goodlooking. Its all in the picture pose and shit. Don't get discourage by that, plus some people are just cruel and want to take your rating down.


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Why do you feel the need to be accepted?

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Oh, come now, everyone feels that. Any psychology student will tell you that some form of acceptance is a basic human need. Although it shouldn't be the end-all/be-all, and it's not the magic thing that fixes everything. You need to be someone you can like and accept before other people will follow suit.

Are you the person you wanna be? If you're not, you need to consciously, actively start work on that. Much as I hate to say it, callous as it sounds, this is a "get busy livin or get busy dyin" situation, pal, and I know because I've been where you are and I've come through the other side.

I was considered dull as dishwater when I knew very well that I was not. I craved nothing more than to be accepted and wanted. It made me desperate. The desperation made me even less desirable, and, worse, made me annoying. The annoyance made people dislike me. The dislike made me bitter. The bitterness made me toxic, made me joyless. The toxicity and joylessness made me impossible to be around and impossible to deal with, and that made people hate me. I lost a LOT of friends, burned a LOT of bridges, and drove some very wonderful people out of my life because I was self-destructing, imploding slowly day by day in a whirling vortex of my own misery. I was a bleeding open wound, a walking black hole, and my view then was, "I'm the monster this whole damn world made--I'm this way because NOBODY wants to be around me. WHY don't people like me?! If they liked me, I wouldn't be like this." Of course, now looking back, I realize it was exactly the other way around.

One day, I just said, "No more." I realized that I had gone so far to the bottom and was tearing my sanity apart so badly that my only options were either to kill myself or make the choice to climb out that deep pit hand over hand. It WAS not easy. It was not quick. It took years. It was a long, grueling road. I had to spend a lot of time, ironically, alone before I was fit to spend time with others. There's a lot of trial and error, just like with pickup art. I went through a lot of friends, and even those who are closest to me and love me most dearly, who stuck by me as much as they could stand to because they knew in spite of everything that there is and has always been a light inside me and I'm worth it and saw that there was potential because they knew the push and pull that was happening and saw that I was TRYING to change--even those precious few were pushed right up to the edge and nearly walked away several times. It is not easy. I'll never get back some of the friends I lost...they'll simply never forgive me for the toll I took on them. And I cannot blame them. But I'm a better person now, and I'm a healthier person and a happier person.

Am I healthy and happy every day? No. Am I still occasionally haunted by that neediness? Yes. Occasionally that desperation will seep back in and fuck up one of my pickups. "Happily ever after," the wise come to find, is lived on a day-by-day basis. But by and large, life works for me now, instead of the other way around. I don't go seeking other people for acceptance and desire...other people are drawn to me, because they look at me across a room and think (and I've been told this), "Wow, that guy's got it goin on." My body is barely big enough for all the great things that are going on inside me. And this is coming from someone who less than a decade ago was maybe the biggest black hole in the fucking universe.

If you're screwin around with Facebook, odds are you're about my age or even younger, which means you've still got a whole lotta life ahead of you and therefore a whole lot of time which can be used to fix the mess it sounds like you've become. Be the change you want to see. It's not easy, and it's not quick, and there is no guidebook that will walk you through the process because it's different for everybody. Only you know what you need, and if you don't now, go looking for it and you'll eventually figure it out.

Don't expect anybody to do this for you. Don't expect the world or other people to change for you, or suddenly flock to you. The hardest thing for a depressed person who knows inside that they're cool and good to admit to himself is that if people are running from you, it unfortunately means that YOU are doing something wrong. And that's not an insult...it's a wake-up call. It's a challenge.

Figure out what you wanna be, and get yourself in order. I guarantee the rest will follow.


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I agree.

Screw worrying about what people think of you, they should be worrying about what you think of them! After College I noticed that people changed and things change and a lot of my friends were off doin different things so I just lived my life, made new friends and doing my own thing and as McDonalds would say "I'm Lovin it"


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Tell them to fuck them selves. Youll feel better and they wont think you can be pushed around so easy


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That didn't work for me, but good luck to those who try it. That's a Band-Aid on a bullet wound. It's superficial impression without actually improving the problem.


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i agree with goldeneye, and i personally went through a mini life altering experience... it wasn't anyone telling me, it was me seeing what i had become through my own eyes. and seeing myself like that i was left with a choice, 'give up or step up' and i took the necessary steps to begin improving my life baby step by baby step.

i am nowhere near where i would like to be, but i am already much better off then i was no more then a month ago


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Why do you feel the need to be accepted?
Because other peoples negativity has a habit of spreading to other people, so if one person tries to ruin you it will usually spread like a disease and then everyone will get the wrong impression of you.


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Why do you feel the need to be accepted?
Because other peoples negativity has a habit of spreading to other people, so if one person tries to ruin you it will usually spread like a disease and then everyone will get the wrong impression of you.
Not true, because the power is still in your hands. If one person tries to ruin you, other people will be watching to see how you handle the situation. If you let them ruin you, only then will you lose the respect of those around you.

btw are you the guy who creates those melodramatic/pessimistic posts?
What I'm saying is that if you come across as being pessimistic just by your online posts, it must be worse what others think of you in real life... people don't like being around pessimists or people who look for pity.

I suggest you read ThunderCats: The Art of The Approach.
I dont know if you realize it, but you are by definition a "whiner" (The Art of Approaching, 24), and I am taking the time to type this out-- you can get the ebook here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/256912/Thunde ... nd-edition

"A Whiner is someone who complains, resents, and despairs. He feels sorry for himself because he feels "unfairly treated" and there is "nothing he can do about it." The whiner is always the victim, never taking responsibility for his actions and therefore never learning from his failures. He's afraid of success, since he has grown accustomed to whining about what goes wrong. The whiner attracts as much pain and suffering as he can to himself in order to make his complaints "real" and "valid," despite the fact that it's not in his own best interest. He feels angry and jealous, always seeing what he doesn't have and not focusing on what he does." -ThunderCat

and you are probably going to say that you have nothing... which isn't true, because you said that you're not boring, which means that you have something (be it knowledge, charisma, personality, etc).

Read page 32-33. I don't want to type it all out.

There are 5 definitions of confidence destroying actions that ThunderCat explains and gives solutions to. They are: Bingeing, Pleasing, Whining, Procrastinating, and Avoiding.

Personally I've always been the procrastinator. But at least I've always realized it so I can always do something about it.

so let me ask you a question. Would you ever tell your friends what you said to us on this forum? Which would be:
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Lets face it Im fucked, its my destiny to never be accepted and always be rejected in every walk of life.
I ask myself daily what Ive done to deserve such a pointless existance, considering Ive escaped death when I was younger makes it that more despicable why I was kept alive just to be shit on at every opportunity.
(Also, it's amazing how you see your brief encounter with death as something negative. To me, it would give me all the more reason to live, and to make a purpose for myself)

How do you think their opinion of you will change if you told them that? And what do you think they will say in response?

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Just read that ebook, good read but with all due respect its stuff Ive tried and failed with before and im definately not a whiner.
The Bad Luck I have had has nothing to do with me, I havent been blessed with the chances and opportunties people around me have had.
I need some Good Fortune to finally fall in my favour before I can do anything, because It is out of my hands.


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