so when a girl asks for something(anything from a drink to a smoke) is it more of a creeper move to ask what she will trade for it?

hb - omg your shaved head looks so good can i touch it(i keep my head bic'd)
me - maybe, but what do i get (to touch?)

i truly can't figure out if this would be good or be bad(bartering bad?)

I think this could work if you said it jokingly, aslong as you dnt come across creepy or way too upfront this could work as a way of DHV, eg. smile as you say it or wink or something..

Well thats my opinion on it so i say go for it mate, if it is in a club environment what have you got too lose?
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-Pulse

I agree this sounds like it could work but for sure smile or laugh to make it sound like your just trying to be funny. Also def do that in a club cause if it doesnt work just move on.

As the others said, just make sure you have a cheeky smile or wink when you say it, staring in to her eyes would come across as somewhat creepy. Best of luck!

I'm new here, and just trying to harmonize previous strategies that seemed to work well for me with this wealth of new knowledge, so if people here think these thoughts equal bad strategy, I'd like to know. I get the "push-pull" concept in putting up an obstacle to their want, but I view it more as a general guideline, not a constant.
To me, sometimes if you want to catch the big fish (hook, line, and sinker) you need to forget about the lure and throw the worm on the hook. This seemed like a great opportunity for that.
My first thought of a response was this: look her straight in the eye and with a big sheepish grin say "you can touch whatever you want". Then tip the top of your head toward her so she may touch it. Tipping your head toward her seems important to me because it keeps her from convincing herself that you were being perverted. The sheepish grin lightens the situation, the eye contact conveys seriousness and confidence. Everything is balanced which leaves you room to move left or right.
She can also infer a standing invitation to touch you whenever (maybe wherever), and if she doesn't already get that you're interested, it should leave no doubt (I'm not saying to forget that you're the prize).
The real trick, I think, is in how you say it.
Besides, any of the, what do you call it, Kino? is a very good thing for building bond, so personally, especially if it is the first physical contact, I wouldn't be inclined to object. People want to test drive the car before they buy it. After the test drive, make her pay (earn it).

Thoughts?

Jon

thanks for the replies guys, and i actually put it into use today in day game... sorta.

long story short i used it on a sales clerk buying a nice button up T for going out who i had been flirting with... i will relay results on success of trade arrangement later this week

before you all razz me for thinking i did well with a hired gun, i do know that they sell better if they flirt and i am not really getting my hopes up too much... but again i will let you know near the end of the week

Atleast your getting out there and giving it ago Rintin mate, goodluck and keep us posted, sounds like things are going well for you at the moment though .


Jon I can understand what your trying to do here, you dont want to come across as threatening in any way but still convey some seriousness to what your saying but i think i would still go with a cheeky grin, looking her in the eye at first then a little wink before tipping your head toward her.

By doing this you are showing that you are lightening the mood and any anxiety she had should go, aswell as seeing you as someone quite cheeky you also put across the idea that it could do further than just toughing your head.

As for what you said about Kino i totally agree its a great way to start and very easy to build it up from there, Goodjob mate if your new to this stuff aswell ive been on about 2 outings SPAM trying some techniques with some pretty good sucess SPAM .

Keep us posted guys
Hope this has helped
-Pulse

In order to make anything like this work, the key is confidence and KNOWING that she is gonna do it.

What I mean by this is, no sheepish grins, not making it a complete joke; you make sure that you look into her eyes till she looks away first, with a grin on your face (describing a one sided grin is too much work, so just play with it till you get good results with your smiles) and I DEFINITELY wouldn't tilt my head down to her, I would instead tilt it back and to the side a bit.

I wear a candy necklace out to the club sometimes and when I do, I get girls kissing me left and right because of a little trick The Saint taught me. It incorporates nothing but sheer confidence and coming off as being playful, but 9/10 girls that want candy from my necklace end up kissing me. And no, I'm not gonna tell you how to do it, cause that's one of mine.

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That is SO money! I didn't know they still sold those.

I've used trade many times and I don't think, if you've built comfort, that it ever comes across as creepy. Creepy = failure

I never trade for anything that even sounds like a sexual inuendo! if they even hint at it, I give them a "don't even imagine molesting me without my permission!" I always maintain that sex is for them not for me and if we're trading I want something for me.

They usually say something about...sex isn't for you?
me: Trust me. So what do you do well? Do you cook? Do you give a good message?

I've had a girl that I've never met before except a chat over the internet agree to come to my place with everything she needed to cook brownies plus she didn't know either my name [she was calling me Mr. Lion Tamer] or my job [you can probably guess what I told her i did]

Rather than a trade maybe, say, I don't know, bea good girl, and maybe *big smile*

I've just gotta add here, amazing mate
You have gotta have had some pretty incredable game to pull that off; and did she actually 'make you brownies'? lol

Sorry its not related to the thread but was astounded by that tbh
-Pulse