Hey so I was indirect with this girl in my class, i talked to her at the beginning for a bit then I stopped, cause she was sitting behind me after class I asked for her msn so we could get together and study and what not. So I've flirted with her a lot on msn (i only talked to her twice), however MSN is nothing, my friend told me to go randomly say let's go on a date on msn although I don't think that be a good idea, I'm going to see her again Monday in class and we were going to study together after class was over, should I escalate and flirt there, or should I just ask her now?

if u want something go after it. if u feel like u could ask her out then go for it, but do it in person, dont do it over msn.

I would flirt with her during the study session, using some DHV and maybe neg her a little bit so she knows ur joking and when ur ready ask her out on a date.

Im a psych student at the University of Texas and if there is anything i can tell u is that girls will respond more to a confident guy that knows what he wants and goes after it. so be extremely confident speak with a clear voice and present urself as an alpha male. dont seem too needy though.

Unless there is some crazy circumstance she should say yes to the date. most girls loves stuff like that, then u can get her number and start from there. if she has a b/f just ask straight up "does that matter?, you can bring him with if u want?" she will be caught off guard and just ask what bout that date? if she still refuses you then o well, dont let it bother u. u had just had loads of practice in what to do and what not to do when asking a girl out.

hope this helps

-Patience

Like straight up let's go on a date? And how do I make myself not look needy.

You should test for the IOIs first, in the library or wherver your study session takes place then look for some there, flirting over MSN is easy for anyone to do, it provides a brick wall that gives a sense of security. Once you are alone with her, face-to-face, then you will know if she is truly interested.

Kinda Force the topic About going Out, Places To hangout at and etc. and then simply enough just be hey you know what you should go on a date with me. and make it seem like whatever she did that weekend would be more boring but at the same time you gotta seem as if there could be better things for you to do. Like "Yeah my friends and i go xxxxx all the time, but i think i could go a day without them if you decided to tag along. So what do you say let's make it a date?" something kinda along those lines have always worked out for me. Remember confidence, girls are dogs and they can sense any bit of hesitation. And for future reference on anything, If you think you should do something, than you should do it. Cause it would never hurt to try another experience you could learn from.

What IOIs should I be looking for?

some IOI's u can look for are kino towards you. eye contact. one thing ive studied in psych is that if a girl is looking at u and her pupils are fairly large, esp in a well lit place, she is attracted to you or favors you. by the way she sits, if she sits cross legged with her feet and knees pointed towards you thats a good thing. if she is relaxed thats a good thing. if she plays with her hair for no real reason. trust me like Second Chance said if she yall are by yourselves u should be able to tell. just stay relaxed and confident. girls also want some stuff they cant have so make urself desirable.

Ok but I got to be decisive on a date like where and what. I already talked to her about giving me fashion advice, so maybe going to a mall for a good day, do something after? and then having dinner?

ehh maybe, but that seems so generic, remember, u need NOT be like every other guy. try to get creative. what if instead of going to the mall for fashion advice, yall went to a fashion show. ive been to a few and they are pretty wild. it will show that u are cultured and girls love shit like that. sometimes u can find free ones too. then maybe dinner after that?

Thanks a lot, one problem my friend's in that class, so should I tell him what my intentions are?

So like he'll leave me alone lol

thats up to you. u could use ur friend as a wingman of some sorts, u can use him to demonstrate higher value around her. or u could just let him know so he doesnt say anything stupid or ruin stuff. but i wouldnt see any harm in not telling him.

lol he could come and study with us that be very bad, btw what's a good place to study? I was thinking library but I need somewhere more isolated.

university or high school or what?

whoops my bad lol, university.

yea avoid libraries . try like a coffee shop, this coffee shop adventure could be like a "mini" date. but dont act like its a date lol you could also try like hot spots around campus. i know at UT, our student union has a lot of mini restaurants and shops and stuff. also if its nice out maybe a park or some place outside. and dont bring your friend to study lol this is about you and her.