have been going out trying to sarge bars and nightclubs for months now. I agree totally with the value of effective negging when chatting to a 8+, however I get to the same problem every time I drop a neg:

(To set the scene, I am in a nightclub/bar and chilling around the joint till I spot some rat that I want a piece of and so I bowl on over)

Me: Oi, love you're F@#$%g howling (negative comment)
Girl: Slap/Punch/Boyfriend Punch/Bouncer Kick Out

Where am I going wrong? Sometimes I neg about 50+ girls in one bar/club in one night, and NONE of them are at all interested getting their back doors drilled...

HELP!

I wouldn't use profanity in a neg. It creates a hostile vibe rather than a playful one that's showing who's boss.

You're probably saying insults. Negs are about having tact, like using backhanded compliments or playfully downplaying a girl.

So if I say "You disgust me, you are basically a piece of scrat that festered in the bin juice in my kitchen for a week" to a girl, thats probably too hardcore?

Mate that's an insult, not a Neg

Also you shouldn't really open with a neg.

A better opener would be something like "i'm bored, tell me a story"...

Yea dont use profanity in your sarging its really negative and it can bring out the worst in the girl because you want to match up your emotional state with hers so basically If your happy shes happy which means she will open up for you and talk to you if your sad shes sad which its going to be hard to get out of her if your negative shes going to be negitive, Capish

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lol are you serious? man what an insult, it just shows how much of an asshole you are lol

i dunno anything but i think if you were going to practice pick up you have to be playful and in a happy state, and if she gives you shit, just return it and go back to playful again, but i dunno cause im just starting to get serious into working my game now that summers here