Hi guys !

Lets say I met someone (doesn't matter where, it could be bar, through some common interest, whatever...), we chitchat for a while, time pass, everything is OK 'till the moment we have to cross from "hey, we just met" to "I like you and would like to have something more with you",.. That's the moment I usualy screw up royaly lol ... Lots of times I waited too long and finished in friend zone (how to avoid that?) or I simply didn't know how to tell her I like her (and she didn't get it or she pretended she doesn't got it haha ...), didn't know how to usk for number... How to tell her you like her without being creepy, needy or whatever else? When is a moment to ask for a phone number? Something else I have to take care of?

Thanks in advance !

It sounds like there is too much fluff talk without expressing attraction or flirting. I'm a big believer on finding common interests but it is useless without showing intent. Why should a woman like you as a man just because you like bike riding? She has friends that will bike ride with her already. However, she will like you as a man because you flirt with her, thinks she's beautiful, and you like bike riding is now a bonus.

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Puba, maybe you are right, maybe I don't flirt right way, but that's exactly my question: what I'm supposed to do? What is a "right" way to flirt? Is it possible to learn or I'm a hopeless case (even if I was with fairly good number of woman, but I never learned proper art od "gaming") and better not to bother to much and just continue as before?

All of your questions are just based on you not knowing how to game a woman.

"How to tell her you like her?" Are you serious with that right now.

She'll figure out you like her when you are trying to make out with her and feeling all over her body.

The answer to your questions is one word: ESCALATE

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Ninja, as I said, I don't know the game and I have no problem to admit. Escalate? Yes, I know that, but how? Do you have some advice? Something to read? Tao of badass or something like that?

P.S. Whe I was a kid (looong time ago...) I had few gf's, but all from school, we knew each other. I married young and was married for few decades and finaly I found myself again on "meat market", but never learned proper game and I'm struggling now... I'm not too old, but I'm not as young as most of the guys here and my time is running out...

It all depends on your personality. Me, I talk to women normally but sprinkle complements in a regular conversation ("You can get away with that because your pretty"). I also like to throw in some innuendo but let the woman point out that it's dirty. It's your nonverbals that are going to make you the most attractive. Strong eye contact, slight grin, getting caught glancing at lips/boobs, prolonged body contact, etc.

Since you're not used to it, you're going to have to push yourself out of your comfort zone a bit until flirting is second nature.

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There's a lot of information on this site alone about escalating. Might be overwhelming at first, but sift through it as best you can and find key points that you think you could apply to your game.

For instance, I recently met a girl. Cold approach, never seen her before in my life. After a short conversation we were about to part ways. I shook her hand and held it. It was NOT a normal handshake. The next time I saw her I brought flowers. She thanked me and hugged me and kissed my cheek, and as she turned to walk inside I placed my hand on the small of her back. Our sum total time together was 15 minutes, and in that amount of time I had CLEARLY established that my interest in her was physical and sexual. Things progressed favorably from there.

Does that make sense how escalation is used and why it is so important?

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