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I'm reading mystery method at the moment (among some other books) and 'qualification' is coming up a lot. Making the girl think you like her for reasons other than the fact that she's hot ; Ask he a question during A3, tell her you like her answer so that later she assume that this is why you want to bang her.


So how necessary is it?

I saw a Max RSD infield ealier (devil handjob for anyone who has the natural) but I couldn't spot anything in the way of 'qualification'? Almost the only question he asks about her is what she studies, and she didn't even end up giving him the answer!

I've seen friends pull girls into bathrooms in clubs before where they've barely spoke - so again, no qualification.

And how does it relate to kino? We are told to use kino very early on and 'make your intentions' clear, so doesn't teh girl already know that you want to fuck her because she's hot and not because she is close with her family, or has travelled or whatever?


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If a girl tries to qualify herself to you, that's outstanding. If you're actively trying to get her to qualify herself, then you're wasting a lot of time when you can focus on being the type of guy that women want to be around.

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If a girl tries to qualify herself to you, that's outstanding. If you're actively trying to get her to qualify herself, then you're wasting a lot of time when you can focus on being the type of guy that women want to be around.
Do you think that "two steps backwards one forward" thing is good? Like, squeeze her hand, she squeezes back, you throw her hand away. Its good to keep tension high imo. Also, on the qualification topic, I think its only meant to be used for 10s and to be able to have game to spit, because making her qualify creates loads of topics for you to talk about without running dry.


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If a girl tries to qualify herself to you, that's outstanding. If you're actively trying to get her to qualify herself, then you're wasting a lot of time when you can focus on being the type of guy that women want to be around.
Do you think that "two steps backwards one forward" thing is good? Like, squeeze her hand, she squeezes back, you throw her hand away. Its good to keep tension high imo. Also, on the qualification topic, I think its only meant to be used for 10s and to be able to have game to spit, because making her qualify creates loads of topics for you to talk about without running dry.
The whole two steps forward and one step back thing is a technique used to keep people off balance and not know where they stand with you. It's an okay tactic and I have nothing against it. IMO, it's better that you just have confidence and carry yourself in a way that losing any girl isn't going to break you.

I wish that you guys could get that 9's and 10's are different out of your heads. The only real difference that they have than other girls is that they probably get hit on by a lot of guys that have nothing to lose or something to prove, so they get a lot of gamey types and they have their guards up. The unfortunate truth is that these women rarely get approached by men that know how to talk to women normally. If you treat a so-called 9 and/or 10 the same way that you would treat any other girl, while at the same time being socially aware and confident (and maximizing your looks), they are going to react to you the same way as any other girl will. They have the same emotional/physical needs as any other woman and they want those needs fulfilled.

If you can get a woman to the point where she feels the need to qualify herself to you, she's already attracted. You're just adding extra steps to ease your mind before trying to take things further with her.

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If a girl tries to qualify herself to you, that's outstanding. If you're actively trying to get her to qualify herself, then you're wasting a lot of time when you can focus on being the type of guy that women want to be around.
Do you think that "two steps backwards one forward" thing is good? Like, squeeze her hand, she squeezes back, you throw her hand away. Its good to keep tension high imo. Also, on the qualification topic, I think its only meant to be used for 10s and to be able to have game to spit, because making her qualify creates loads of topics for you to talk about without running dry.
The whole two steps forward and one step back thing is a technique used to keep people off balance and not know where they stand with you. It's an okay tactic and I have nothing against it. IMO, it's better that you just have confidence and carry yourself in a way that losing any girl isn't going to break you.

I wish that you guys could get that 9's and 10's are different out of your heads. The only real difference that they have than other girls is that they probably get hit on by a lot of guys that have nothing to lose or something to prove, so they get a lot of gamey types and they have their guards up. The unfortunate truth is that these women rarely get approached by men that know how to talk to women normally. If you treat a so-called 9 and/or 10 the same way that you would treat any other girl, while at the same time being socially aware and confident (and maximizing your looks), they are going to react to you the same way as any other girl will. They have the same emotional/physical needs as any other woman and they want those needs fulfilled.

If you can get a woman to the point where she feels the need to qualify herself to you, she's already attracted. You're just adding extra steps to ease your mind before trying to take things further with her.
I know you are into 100% natural game and all, but if you don't control the frame by showing who is the biggest giver of affection and who shows less, you will eventually seem needy without even knowing. Personal experience.


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I know you are into 100% natural game and all, but if you don't control the frame by showing who is the biggest giver of affection and who shows less, you will eventually seem needy without even knowing. Personal experience.
Sometimes you kids crack me up when you start talking about experience.

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Having a weird agenda for the conversation and thinking "I need to qualify her to get laid" is a gigantic load of horse diarrhea man. Girls can sense those road apples from a mile away.

That being said as the person above me mentioned, if she qualifies herself to you:
step 1- catch it, and understand it when she's doing it *examples "I actually was pretty gifted as a smart kid pretty early on" or "i've been told I am pretty good at this"*

step 2- accept it. *oh really, that's awesome* does it. This works for everyone not just girls.

It's really that simple.

Qualification is a part of human nature where one feels they must prove something of themselves to the other person, and essentially makes themselves temporarily vulnerable for the other person's acceptance. You'll see this at work when someone is in over their head and are in front of their superiors.. trying to prove something. Sometimes overdone in social situations.

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I know you are into 100% natural game and all, but if you don't control the frame by showing who is the biggest giver of affection and who shows less, you will eventually seem needy without even knowing. Personal experience.
ahhahaha, isnt that virgin kid?

plz, if u dont have experience dont fuck give advice...holy shit dude.


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If a girl tries to qualify herself to you, that's outstanding. If you're actively trying to get her to qualify herself, then you're wasting a lot of time when you can focus on being the type of guy that women want to be around.

sometimes I get consfused by "the guy that women want to be around" vs be honest. Should I avoid some topics when I meet woman or be 100% myself?


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I know you are into 100% natural game and all, but if you don't control the frame by showing who is the biggest giver of affection and who shows less, you will eventually seem needy without even knowing. Personal experience.
Bro, you're still a virgin as far as I know a few weeks back. Citing your experience versus Jack's is really not doing any justice to the quality of Jack's advice.

@topic: Qualification is a good tool for isolation. Other than that, it can be counter productive.

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If a girl tries to qualify herself to you, that's outstanding. If you're actively trying to get her to qualify herself, then you're wasting a lot of time when you can focus on being the type of guy that women want to be around.

sometimes I get consfused by "the guy that women want to be around" vs be honest. Should I avoid some topics when I meet woman or be 100% myself?
No topic is off the table but at the same time you have to make a topic enjoyable for her. The thing is that flirtation and attraction is what's needed to be focused on if you want to seduce a woman. If she feels the attraction, you can talk pretty much about anything.

EDIT: Just want to add this. The less you say during seduction, the more seductive you are.

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I'm reading mystery method at the moment (among some other books) and 'qualification' is coming up a lot. Making the girl think you like her for reasons other than the fact that she's hot ; Ask he a question during A3, tell her you like her answer so that later she assume that this is why you want to bang her.


So how necessary is it?

I saw a Max RSD infield ealier (devil handjob for anyone who has the natural) but I couldn't spot anything in the way of 'qualification'? Almost the only question he asks about her is what she studies, and she didn't even end up giving him the answer!

I've seen friends pull girls into bathrooms in clubs before where they've barely spoke - so again, no qualification.

And how does it relate to kino? We are told to use kino very early on and 'make your intentions' clear, so doesn't teh girl already know that you want to fuck her because she's hot and not because she is close with her family, or has travelled or whatever?
They are different styles really. Qualification may be more beneficial in a situation where you hVe to get the girl to go on a date...less so for a one night stand. You'll approach various scenarios differently. Play around with trying new things.


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9's and 10's are different, because they've experienced the world through a filter that 6's and 7s haven't. More of them have been abused by the creepy uncle, too.

They have supreme abundance mentality from junior high on, at a level men only achieve if famous or well-known.

It's why these women can dismiss men so quickly without a flicker of emotion.

A good looking guy can snare these women, but if he doesn't follow the five fundamental principles, he won't keep them for long.

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9's and 10's are different, because they've experienced the world through a filter that 6's and 7s haven't. More of them have been abused by the creepy uncle, too.
That means absolutely nothing when it comes to pickup. A guy that's good with women doesn't have to worry about a rating system that is based on his own preference. He can approach any woman the same way regardless of how anyone rates her. Not to beat a dead horse on this subject, but a 9 or a 10 is nothing more than an opinion.

One man's 9 is another man's 7.

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If you treat a so-called 9 and/or 10 the same way that you would treat any other girl, while at the same time being socially aware and confident (and maximizing your looks), they are going to react to you the same way as any other girl will. They have the same emotional/physical needs as any other woman and they want those needs fulfilled.
I'd go a length further and say they'll often react even a bit better. For the exact reason you mentioned. A normal and confident guy will often be a breath of fresh air for them, given their usual pretenders.

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