well, im a newbie here, and i went out clubbing last night!
a few HB but not much, there were 3 blonde's that i was interested in, and they were dancing together, and bout 8-10 guys dancing around them, even at the bar, its like the guys jus moved around with these girls!

seeing im new to this, how could i make it so that i jus dont look like any other regular guy there just trying kiss her ass and put her on a pedestal?

or shuld i cut the bullshit, and practice my games continually?

I am new here too, so this is should not be the end of your search, but you could have walked up to one of them and ask one of them if they are a movie star but in a non caring way, then you could get the actual job she does. ask to isolate one, and go from there. once again just what popped into my head, but seems like a good opener, about her, no interest, just communication

the whole point if of being a PUA is to be different, set yourself apart from the afc dancing in a circle around them go in and just start dancing with them, the only reason girls dance with each other in clubs is because most guys don't have the balls to start dancing with them, do the opposite of what everyone else is doing

hey dean,
real new to the forum but ive been going to clubs since i was 16 (23 now). i'll throw my opinion in, and ive found mystery also strongly advocates this as well and that is the dance floor is a trap.

even if you took that advice and the girl allowed you to dance with her you already lowered your value to just another guy interested in her physically. plus when you're done dancing you're still just some random guy that she doesnt know and if she doesnt immediately walk off, she might "let" you buy her a drink, then walk off...

if she is a hb the odds are real slim she'll let you anyway though. i never dance with a girl unless i'm in a relationship with them. my personal opinion beacuse it's all but useless.


that being said, clamenza is right abuot setting yourself apart but just being that guy who goes right up to them rather then around them wont be that different imo. in that situation i would be certain to open adjacent set while shes at the bar, dhv by letting her see you with other women before you open her. if shes really a 10 and litereally surrounded by afcs then mystery's flipoff technique would probably work. tried it twice, i was terrified to do it but the girl responded not negatively, but curious.

otherthen that you might try another club.

I'm sorry, but going in and trying to dance with a 3 set of girls that has be surrounded by guys isn't going to work for you at this point. They have huge shields up and they aren't dancing with each other because the guys don't have the balls to dance with them, they are dancing with each other, because that way they are dancing and having fun but not getting groped by random guys. Girls dance together, because it is protection from men.

Walking up to a girl on the dance floor and trying to open them using a question, or talking to them in any way, just isn't going to work, because they are dancing and they don't give a shit about talking. They will just turn their back on you.

Avoid the dance floor in this situation and talk to other sets in the club. If there aren't other decent sets, like you post implied, then you need to find a better venue, or maybe you need to know which night that venue is good on. Generally clubs in town have decided which night is "their" big night and when it will be packed in there, so you hit whatever club is good on whatever night you are going out.

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