Hey guys, I'm having an issue with this certain girl.

We've been friends for a while, she knows I like her (I don't show her I do anymore, just neg her once in a while).

Anyhow I got single and we hung out last night and I slept at her house and I tried to push/pull, but it didn't work, nothing happened.

This is a girl who sometimes feels like she's giving mixed signals but sometimes adamant we're friends.
Honestly have no idea what to do as it's become a personal quest now, not just any other girl.
In the end, I shouldn't care and I know that but for some reason I can't let this go.

I know that my currently improving lifestyle (setting up a few businesses, debt-free property and general positive vibe) should provide me with all the satisfaction I need, but sometimes I get really bummed out, can't seem to understand why.

Quick thought:

I shouldn't even bother about this god damn friend zone as there's so many other things I have going on, so I think perhaps it's more of a mental issue then specifically this girl, I like her personality a lot but I still think it's a 'prove to myself' kind of thing, need to get it out.

How does she know you like her? I'm interested what in particular did you do?

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I was pretty AFC and had severe one-itis about a year and a half ago, and pretty much told her I like her and if she thought about it too.

Anyhow after that we stayed friends and lost contact due to both being in rels, now we're both single and I'm trying to push/pull but it doesn't seem to have any effect except on friendship.

Telling a girl you like her (verbally or via text message) is the least efficient way of seducing her. You should convey your intentions via nonverbal means like looking deep into her eyes with lust and such.

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Yeah I learned my lesson after that.

But now my issue is i can't seem to get to her, I don't say anything like that and I neg her while still keeping an interest in what she's doing.

I know she's just a girl and there's so many more but for some reason I can't take the rejection, immature of me.

It's a codependency thing. Because you are now single, no matter how much success you have in your life, it doesn't mean much if you don't have someone to share the excitement with. I wouldn't worry about the girl, go find another one to get your mind off her.

Ask her out for drinks and make sure she knows its a date, how? Text her: "You and me, drinks tonight at X" ^^ if she declines give her 1 more chance to see when she is free to go out with you, if she is vague about it, you block her number, remove her from social media and talk to other girls... or work 24/7 on your business to keep your mind of things, i like to work on my business a lot as it keeps me from giving all my attention to girls, they will "know" your a busy man who isn't needy.

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Yeah I guess I'm quite dependent on company, I'm always on my phone like a little bitch, albeit most of it is on stocktwits lol.
I can't do that as I don't wanna lose her as a friend either, it's an itchy situation cause it's fun hanging out with her but at the same time I have this hedonistic carnal need to bang her with the fury of a thousand suns, even if it ruins the friendship or turns it into something serious.

I think I'm just gonna randomly pick up some girls and get them with me when we go out for drinks, try to average a different one per week.

Yes, she's just like every other girl. Rejection? Rejection from what? I don't see anywhere you escalated to anything to be rejected from?

Have you ever been sexual with her? Tried to kiss her? Smacked her ass? Give those titties a twerk?
What are you pushing and pulling? I'll tell you what the fuck you need to be pushing.

THE SEXUAL BUTTON! You push that fucker like a monkey pushing his feeding button at the zoo!

You know WHY? Friends Don't Have Sex!

You want to put your dick in this girl? Stop being her fucking girl friend.

Stop being so "Nice".

But I doubt you'll take any risk here.

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Why the hell should he remove her from social media? How childish would that be?




You first have to decide what you really want, you're options are:

1) keeping her as a friend and finding other women to date

2) sleeping with her and try to be f-buddies

3) sleeping with her and drop her

or

4) have a LTR with her.

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Cheers.

Rejection - I've AFC'd this chick a year and a half ago so that was the rejection (understandable). (What I did is written more up in the thread) and no never did anything like that, idk I think I force the friend things ince I'm not that physical with her, we're meeting next friday for drinks so I might as well smack her ass at some point and see her reaction.

Sexual button - What do you mean exactly? Flirting, talking dirty, drinking and getting close to her per say?

Stop being her fucking girl friend - True, I need to, I'm too nice.

Take any risk - Honestly, I don't know. I always think that if we're open/drunk/heated up enough I would, but never sure when is enough.

Endear me by continuing to say what you feel you should say, I'm willing to learn.

Thanks!

If you want to get over the Friend Zone, understand that it is nothing more than something you created. You are there because you were to much of a pussy to risk losing her. So instead your NICE to her.

Now you have to work extra hard to dig your way out.

Now you need to create SEXUAL TENSION.

And get her to see you in a sexual way.

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Between 1 and 4 , I guess I have one-itis thinking of it, but should we bang I don't mind if it drops, just want the satisfaction.

Will be trying to be more sexual with her, starting tonight should we talk, will keep you lads updated.