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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:13 pm 
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Hi Gents,

Completely new to the seduction community and really have stumbled on all this due to realising what happened.

Background, decent looking guy with no problem talking to girls!

But have always had the "Nice Guy" tag.

Basically, been seeing a girl for 5/6 weeks (8/10) couldn't believe my luck (First Mistake), went on multiple dates that went extremely well and I do mean that. Dates dried up a little 4 weeks in and we started chilling more at her house!

Stayed over the first time but after a couple bottles of wine couldn't perform, no issues she was fantastic about it!

Happened a second time sober, but we both put it down to nerves etc as we both said we liked even other etc.

Now the good bit, I'm hearing all the right things from this girl all along and was generally trying to sexually escalate by kissing and touching first etc, she'd be saying things like "I don't want you to leave etc" which was great as I felt we were on the same page. (Had to leave as was going to the airport).

Anyway I come back from the weekend to be told she kissed a guy and I confronted her, said it meant nothing and that we hadn't discussed anything moving forward. We decided we wouldn't pressure each other and overthink things so all was good.

Met up during the week at a friends BBQ, all was well kissing etc but no sex due to her time of month. No issue.

That Saturday I'm given the Friend Zone let down speech....

"I'm not ready for this, I don't know what I want personally or professionally (she'd been job hunting) it's nothing you've done, you've been amazing, you're so nice blah blah blah"

Anyway, basically I just want to get some feedback as I feel this to be a slightly different situation to others I've read!

Can I get her back through Game? Looked into NLP as I know I need to build my confidence and sexually escalate better!!

Thoughts Guys?

Thanks for taking the time to read!

Bren


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:24 pm 
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nah man, you suck at the seduction phase. work on that and come back. You're not getting into her knickers any time soon.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:32 pm 
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She probably just started talking with the guy that she kissed.

A woman loses her attraction for you when she loses her respect for you. The loss of attraction isn't always tied to a loss of respect, but the loss of respect will almost always be tied to a loss of attraction. And attraction isn't just " I find you to be cute".. There are thousands of guys women will find to be "Cute" that they won't slept with. Im talking about a core biological attraction(i feel safe, secure, and excited with this man). This is just one aspect you can look into on your own. Is it possible that she loss respect for you because you were willing to look past the fact that she made out with some other guy? Could it be something else? Did you feel indebted to her because you weren't able to properly perform? Did you feel even more undeserving? Those mind frames can influence you into taking actions and giving off an energy that can further create a loss of respect. So in short, her core attraction for you went out the window and the performance issues weren't the direct cause of it, but its quite possible that they issues made you feel a way that causes you to behave in a less attractive manner. I've seen it several times before.

As far as the performance issues, has this ever happened to you before? I remember when I was younger I had ran into this. I could bang girls I wasn't emotionally connected to with ease. But when it came to girls I was long term interested in I would have to over come this. It was finally conquered when I met an older woman that new exactly what to do. I'll avoid getting too graphic, but feel free to inbox me if you're interested in this info.

For the girl though, it happens man. Take it in stride and get working on the next one.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:46 pm 
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Eddie,

Appreciate your comments,

I confronted her about the other guy and she gushed it all out! I explained that I wasn't pleased but could also appreciate that we'd only been seeing each other a few weeks and hadn't discussed anything more!

With regards to the performance, I feel like that's me in a nutshell... I felt very down for a couple days and maybe my body language showed that? Last girl I was seeing it was purely the sex that kept me going back, whereas this girl I developed feelings for and I feel like that caused it! It had never ever happened to me before drunk or otherwise!

However, I don't think I sexually escalated as well as I could, I didn't go for it like I have in the past because of the feelings present! Obviously classic nice guy behaviour, which is so frustrating when it's in front of you in black and white!

I do feel that now I have an understanding of what's gone on through my little bits of research I could potentially show a more sexual side to her, as I do like the girl.... I won't be chasing though, just if I happen to see her out etc!

Thanks again Eddie


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