This is following my HB10 obsession post.
I'm only talking as far as long-term relationships.

So, let's say you had the choice between:

Girl #1 Ivy league graduate, we're talking cream of the crop, and now she's a surgeon in some specialty. She's got an average face, an average body, think 6-7.

Girl #2 she's educated, she's in the middle, not too low, not too high. Looks wise, cute, I guess, 7-8.

Girl #3 very beautiful in all aspects, but low on the success scale, think 9 and 10.

Girl #4 the ultimate package. She's very successful, in a top career, and she's very beautiful. 10s all over.

Explain your choice, please.
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Second question. Disregard the top question. If you had to pick between a very smart girl but average (i.e. engineer) and a very beautiful girl but average smart (i.e. hairdresser), who would you go for?

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I'm trying to gauge how important intelligence plays for a man. Because every other thread on here, especially with PUAs, all with the ultimate goal for 9s and 10s. How about brains? Very few talk about that. And I don't mean like personality wise, I mean actual brains.

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What takes more priority for you? A woman's looks or her intelligence? Let's leave personality aside for now.
On a scale of 1-10, how important are looks to you?
On a scale of 1-10, how important is intelligence to you?

What do you classify as intelligence? Degree? Type of degree? Success at job? Reading a lot? Traveling a lot?

What's the point in this exactly?

You know, YOU'RE the one I see bringing up physical attributes the majority of the time here lol

Ops clearly been questioning her own level of attractiveness.

Lol. I'll share my opinion, OP.

It depends on the guy you talk to. I'm studying engineering right now, and I love to have academic conversations with women as well as light, fun banter.

1. Ignoring personality, I would not enter a LTR with a girl of below average intelligence. I'd go for girl 4, 2, or 1, in that order.

2. Very smart but average.

3. Looks 6-7, intelligence 8-9.

She needs to read. She needs to have some kind of passion or ambition that she's working towards so all of her emotional validation doesn't come from me. She needs to have hobbies that don't involve me. She should also have a fun, playful side to her, but this is more like personality.

All girls I've dated matched the above description, and I've found that I'm insanely seductive to women within my demographic.

I thought I was the only one thinking this.

To answer the OP, for a lay I could care less. For me to keep her around, it will help.

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i dont measure intelligence based on level of education, i measure it based on how much i can relate to her, and how much she understands me. i cant care less if she has a phd in fuckign neuroscience, if she doesn't get my jokes, then she is stupid as far as i am concerned. and i cant care less if she has no education and cleans houses for a living, if she gets me and i get her.

but if a girl was a mechanical engineer, i feel like i would have more to talk about, i would ask her about her recent projects, what cool devices she has invented, i would be more fascinated by her than i would be by a hairdresser.

again, has nothing to do with IQ or education. it has to do with how much you can relate.

hitler would think someone who wants to kill all jews is intelligent because he could relate to her.

edit: i like girls that are SHARP, not intelligent.

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Dear sweet boys (LOL),

No matter what, it's never enough for most of you. I could be a size 2-4, still, she must be plain faced. I could be super model faced, let's see her without makeup. Really, there is no limit with you as far as 'questioning' and 'insults'. Whatever.

I'm asking straight forward questions.

2 posters gave me decent responses. The rest resorted to jokes. Very informative.

Eh , we're just questioning the mentality, not your actual physical attractiveness since we don't know what you look like anyway. Even the prettiest girls have their doubts.

Right now you're just being catty- competitive with women- for guys it's pretty simple

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Close to as intelligent as I am...

Girls who are not very smart annoy the F@$@ out of me after a little bit!

And, it's not talking book/educated smart... Girls have to be worldly smart.

If you just want a choice... Girl #2

I didn't respond because you gave options. On a personal note for myself, intelligence only matters in our commonalities because that's where we really relate.

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1) 4. Not sure what there is to explain. Why would I go for any less?
2) Neither.
3) Can you really have a great personality while being a dumbfuck?
Tbh with you aside from Arch Staton I don't think I see that many people going on about "9s" and "10s". Especially if you're talking LTR's. And if people are going around handing gf titles to beautiful idiots, they're not being very smart to begin with.
4) 10 and 10. Looks alone are not more important than intellect. Intellect alone is not more important than looks. A good synergy between them is.
How are reading, travelling and a degree of all things a valid measure of intelligence?
What makes a person quote on quote smart is their wit, reasoning, open mindedness, knowledge pool, drive and beliefs.

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Girl 2 sounds best to me, girl 1 I'd never even meet because I'm not an Ivy Leave educated CEO, girl 3 is probably the mistress of girl 1's husband, and girl 4 probably demands a high level of achievement from those she keeps in her life.

A lot can be learned about a person by looking at the questions they ask.

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