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 Post subject: My Dilemma
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:46 pm 
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Out of the 14 women I've slept with, 7 were through online means and 3 of them were in romantic relationships. The only women I have pride in sleeping with from a purely skill type of standpoint is the 4 i've met in real life and was able to sleep with outside the boundaries of a relationship. I am 21 and the fact that i've only slept with 4 women who've met this criteria since I started sleeping around means that I am not really skilled nor efficient when it comes to the hook up scene.

I feel that in order to increase my number, I have to get better at approaching women randomly and striking up engaging conversations while I do this. What is an effective way of approaching and impressing a random women you've never met? Also once I successfully have a nice conversation with a random girl and get her number, what would be an effective strategy of eventually hooking up with her? Any advice would be much appreciated!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:45 am 
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The best picks ups are situational... using your environment to your advantage. Understanding her emotional state and/or attraction and responding accordingly. So that is your best approach if you are at the bar grabbing a drink or anything like that making conversation is easy.

I tend to just approach openly and honestly, it's a waste of time for me to mislead or do anything that's wasteful.

You can say something like this:

"Hey I seen you from across the room and I was just interested in meeting you. My name is Victor. May I have your name?"

Extend hand for hand shake palm up (nonthreatening), lean in some to hear her (turning your head slightly), bow slightly while meeting her. Maintain a strong confident posture though.

Nonverbally

Good posture, relaxed body language, eye contact, nonthreatening body language (open torso, slightly turned head, exposed wrists, some of them not all), smile as you make eye contact. Mirror her body language as you get closer if you can and you can create natural rapport as well.

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 Post subject: Re: My Dilemma
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:56 am 
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Out of the 14 women I've slept with, 7 were through online means and 3 of them were in romantic relationships. The only women I have pride in sleeping with from a purely skill type of standpoint is the 4 i've met in real life and was able to sleep with outside the boundaries of a relationship. I am 21 and the fact that i've only slept with 4 women who've met this criteria since I started sleeping around means that I am not really skilled nor efficient when it comes to the hook up scene.

I feel that in order to increase my number, I have to get better at approaching women randomly and striking up engaging conversations while I do this. What is an effective way of approaching and impressing a random women you've never met? Also once I successfully have a nice conversation with a random girl and get her number, what would be an effective strategy of eventually hooking up with her? Any advice would be much appreciated!
The average number of sex partners a man has in his lifetime I think hovers between six and seven. So right there don't stress too much. You are actually doing way better than you think.

I think that what you should do is decide how much time you are willing to put into this. Would you be able to put yourself in a position to talk to one new woman each day? Or two? Or seven? Because it will take practice to be able to do what you want - seduce with an effective strategy. You can learn, due to all the information available on psychology and neurology, a structure to seduce women. It's not a script, no one thing you say will automatically make a girl fuck you. However, if you can understand how the human brain reacts to stimuli, specifically women's brains, you can intentionally introduce those sorts of stimuli and trigger a reaction that gives you the best possible chance to fuck her.

Ultimately, she's a human with free will and agency, so sometimes you're gonna get rejected even if you execute perfectly. If you are not okay with that, work on that first. If you can handle it, then brush your teeth, shower, use deodorant, put on some clothes you bought recently as opposed to five years ago and go hit the field.

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 Post subject: Re: My Dilemma
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:08 am 
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Out of the 14 women I've slept with, 7 were through online means and 3 of them were in romantic relationships. The only women I have pride in sleeping with from a purely skill type of standpoint is the 4 i've met in real life and was able to sleep with outside the boundaries of a relationship. I am 21 and the fact that i've only slept with 4 women who've met this criteria since I started sleeping around means that I am not really skilled nor efficient when it comes to the hook up scene.

I feel that in order to increase my number, I have to get better at approaching women randomly and striking up engaging conversations while I do this. What is an effective way of approaching and impressing a random women you've never met? Also once I successfully have a nice conversation with a random girl and get her number, what would be an effective strategy of eventually hooking up with her? Any advice would be much appreciated!
The average number of sex partners a man has in his lifetime I think hovers between six and seven. So right there don't stress too much. You are actually doing way better than you think.

I think that what you should do is decide how much time you are willing to put into this. Would you be able to put yourself in a position to talk to one new woman each day? Or two? Or seven? Because it will take practice to be able to do what you want - seduce with an effective strategy. You can learn, due to all the information available on psychology and neurology, a structure to seduce women. It's not a script, no one thing you say will automatically make a girl fuck you. However, if you can understand how the human brain reacts to stimuli, specifically women's brains, you can intentionally introduce those sorts of stimuli and trigger a reaction that gives you the best possible chance to fuck her.

Ultimately, she's a human with free will and agency, so sometimes you're gonna get rejected even if you execute perfectly. If you are not okay with that, work on that first. If you can handle it, then brush your teeth, shower, use deodorant, put on some clothes you bought recently as opposed to five years ago and go hit the field.

6 or 7 seems quite low, I think a lot of the religious types that wont have sex outside of marriage types may be driving down the average. I'm curious what the average number is on this website. Anyways besides the point.

TBH. Once you stop giving a shit about rejection, how women think, and or pleasing others the progress will come. Like many guys the best initial step to take is put yourself in more situations where you are talking to women and trying to build attraction. Might be uncomfortable at first but your learn by fire and through frequency, which point you are able to make a better assessment of the things you need to work.

My turning point was doing door to door security system sales for 50 hours a week. After getting rejected all day and being in uncomfortable situations all the time.


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 Post subject: Re: My Dilemma
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:16 am 
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