Hi all,

I recently split up with my ex. Been getting back into game and slept with 3 girls. One I met on tinder, one of plenty of fish, and one in a club.

So the tinder one was a lay and I never text her again.

Kate (The plenty of fish one) is kind of cool. Went on a few dates she came over and we fucked then she stayed here the whole of the following day, I've seen her since and been funnelled into agreeing to go meet her sister & sister's fiance this weekend. I feel pretty creeped out by the thought of it, and I either have to flake on her, and risk never speaking to her again, OR go with her and see what it's like.

Jane (The one night stand one) is alot of fun. Great energy, really funny, exiting to be around. We're texting but I'd like to see more of her.

Now, don't get me wrong. Neither of these two girls are relationship material and are average at best! But I want to have them as fuck buddys and to chill out with. I've discussed girl on girl threesomes with Kate and she's keen to try it. Jane on the other hand is the kind of girl I could imagine hanging out with as a friend because she's so much fun.

The trouble is, I have literally no idea how to tell Kate that I just want to hang out and fuck, not meet families etc. and Jane that I want to hang out, without her thinking it's a date. What do ya reckon?

By telling her.

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You're already fucking up the frame with Kate. If you are meeting family thats a huge boyfriend move. Tell her something came up, you have to work or you got busy. Something.

As for Jane, who takes fuck buddies out for dates ? I understand if you guys do friend things (think of what you would do with your male friends) but I would never ask my friends to go to dinner with me or go watch the sunset lol.


Follow some fuck buddy rules and you will be fine. There is no romance with a fuck buddy at all.

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Fuck buddy is you get off, then they go home. No cuddling, no emotions, no romance.

Dates are for quality/value women. Laying and talking in bed for hours is approaching gf territory.

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For girls you want to just fuck, and not go on dates with:

"I'm just focused on my career right now."

"I'm all about fun these days, nothing serious".

For girls you aren't attracted to:

"I'm feeling more of a friendship vibe here."

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Thanks guys.

It's ridiculous how much of a knowledge gap I have here. Having been with the same girl for 7 years until recently, all I have ever known is how to pickup, fuck close, and then be a boyfriend lol. Taken your points on board though. I should definitely talk this out with these girls.

Then move on to new girls and try again when they both blow me off

Do you tell them this before or after you fuck them the first time?

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If you go on a date with a girl you don't want to fuck (or a girl who hits you up at a bar or text), use the "friendship vibe" line.

The other lines are for after you've fucked a girl you want to keep fucking, but don't want a relationship with. But only if she starts bringing up "what are we" conversations. You don't need to say a damn thing if she's just coming to your place to fuck you. She gets it. Respect her intelligence and she'll fuck you better.

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Clear as can be, thanks!

I don't want to highjack the thread but a related question:

You're on a date with a girl, she seem to like you, but you can't f-close (lack of skill, or just bad opportunity). You want her, but only as a fuck buddy.

Should the next date reflect that? Like, "hit me up if you're out partying"-text, or "Netflix n chill"-invite? Other suggestions? Dinner and candle light doesn't really feel like the way to go.

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How about "I'm not looking for anything serious?"

How hard is it?

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OMG this is just unbelievably retarded.

I can't. I just can't.

Yeah that's fine. But you can't really call her a fuck buddy if she won't fuck you. A first date without a heavy makeout session is approaching friend-zone shit, IMHO.

If you guys made out and she had to work at pulling away, go for the Netflix and chill.

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I tell them my intentions before I slept with them. Otherwise, I have to deal with girls that are scrutinising my life to see if I'm a potential long-term partner as well as have stupid rules like 'not kissing till the 3rd date'

I scare away a lot of girls with my honesty 'Hey let's grab some drinks, but just so you know, I'm not looking for a wife' - if they are still down to meet. I usually get same night sex because I framed it as a casual dynamic

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My experience with beautiful 20-somethings is that this frame is *exactly* how you should start and try to keep it. Then they're blowing up your phone everyday. They cannot stand neediness or guys who try to corral them early. I've hung out with groups of girls (acting cool gets you into their casual hang outs with no other guys) just absolutely shredding guys for being uncool and talking relationship too early. It's almost evil how mean they can be.

Be the rock. Be cool, but casual and slightly indifferent with a dash of teasing. Be good in bed, and you'll get them addicted and they'll love you, lol.

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