ok, so i'm kinda new to the whole "pick up artist" thing but i'm really trying. i'm gay, and and all the forums i found that were orientation specific were hardly ever updated...also, you'd also be surprised how many of these situations are gender neutral too so i thought i'd post on here.

anyway, i saw this guy at a bar last night, i'm sure he get's hit on all the time, so i thought i'd kinda neg him a bit on the open and then talk to him about a few things i already knew (a friend of mine dated him back in college so i know a few things about him). he was wearing these really rad silver nikes, like 80s style and i thought i had come up w/ a funny line to open w/. when he was finally alone i went up from behind (i know, i'm not supposed to do that, but he was w/ people the whole night and i had to just jump at my chance) and tapped him on the shoulder.

b/c of his silver shoes i asked him if when he clicks his heals together three times does he end up back in the village. i was wearing a GIANT silver bling chain ala parrell so i thought he would get the joke, but he just stood there. i wasn't sure if he heard me so i repeated the joke and he just stared at me, like, "are you serious." then he walked away.

is a neg a bad idea to open up w/?
when someone takes a comment the wrong way, how should i try to recover?

Uhm..... wow.

I have nothing against gay people, just letting that be known.
But I am kinda surprised...
it is cool that you're trying to improve your game,
but I don't have anything for you.

The reason I use the techniques I use is because of the knowledge I've been given,
about how women think, what attracts them, primal instinct, etc.
And then I know how most guys are, and how they fail.

I have no idea the mindset that goes into being homosexual.
It just doesn't come natural to me.....
I'd assume that some of these techniques would work.
But like I said, I really don't know, can't work it out in my head.

Negging in the beginning.....
it would work, it just depends what you say.

All I can say is that, remember this:
You are a homosexual man.
Your target is also a homosexual man.
Think of what would be highly attractive to you...
it can't be much different from what would attract him.

Of course, this is coming from a straight, mildly homophobic man.

Take it or leave it.

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You can learn and learn and learn all you want... but until you go out and use it, it doesn't mean a thing.

I'm new here. But, Dude...I think you may have stumbled on the wrong site. We're all into women here. I don't think anyone can help you with your problem.

Good luck playing playing: "Fuzzy Bumpers"; "Hide the Weanie"; "Bobbing for Pickles"; "Dingle Berry Picking", "Poop Scooping"; "Cornhole diving"; and "Turd Burglering"!

All of us here prefer the "Pink", not the "Brown Stink".

Hey.
Just for the record.
It's not necessary to be a dick.
So I suggest you take your foot out of your mouth,
and go do something constructive.

When people come here for help, we do our best to give it to them.
How would you like it if the community ridiculed you,
because you're a dick, and can't get your shit straight with women?
Maybe we should deny your call for help.
How's that sound?

Jackass.

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You can learn and learn and learn all you want... but until you go out and use it, it doesn't mean a thing.

Yea. Sorry for being a Dick. I'll need al the advice I can get from others and I guess it's not a good feeling when you're ridiculed by others.

You put it straight, Element. Sorry for my words.

Yeah, I wonder what the main differences are? Maybe a bisexual PUA would know.

Anyway, I would think that, negging would work in the same way as it's a 'stance' thing which sets you out from the crowd, whereas other guys would same the same BS, you're showing you've got guts.

To be honest, I didn't fully understand the neg, which is a bad thing. It's something I do wrong too, I sometimes make remarks or tell jokes which I need to explain to people because they're either confusing or the people are slow. I would suggest sticking to easier negs which people won't need to think about too much "hey I like that shirt... I have a teatowl just like it at home".