Just a poll of the community here. Been practicing now for about 3 months--usually solo and during the day--and I"ve gone from absolute paralysis with approaching...to great conversations, phone numbers, a couple of dates...and, most importantly, a slow but definite change in my mentality.

But I"m wondering...for all you guys, either beginners or seasoned veterans....what was your major breakthru? I thought it would be the approach for me...but I"m realizing that no matter how stunning the girl is, a phone number is just a phone number...and a date is just two people in the same place. I look at the difference between me and the stories that some of the "rAFC's" have...and they don't match up...yet.

So where do you guys find that the line between chatting, flirting, and really moving into PUA territory? Is it the challenge/qualification ? The push-pull? Something else?

Just wondering...I'm ready for my next breakthru--and wondering how best to seek it out.

--s

I think my big breakthru occured when I broke up with my girlfriend of 7 years.

She's an awsome chick, but I always knew in the back of my head that I wanted to have to skills necessary to get women. Subconciously and as of the last year, consciously, I have been realizing that I may have been holding on to her to avoid ever having to worry about learning this skill.

After we broke up it was on. I had no choice other then to learn how to do it. So I'm learning now. I'm trying things, and I'm talking to more women.

One month ago I would never had been able to approach random girls in a bar. 3 weeks ago, I overcame that fear, and I can now approach women fairly confidently. 2 weeks ago, I couldn't figure out how to get past basic conversation. This past weekend I got 2 phone numbers for the first time.

I'm now very nervous about calling these girls up and taking them out, but fuck it, I gotta do it!

In 6 months from now, I'll probably look back at all this stuff and wonder what I ever thought was hard about it.

Just get out there and do it. There's no one single 'breakthru moment'. It's just a skill that is slowly built up over time through trial and error and lots of experimentation and practice.