Here's an excerpt from The Mystery Method, "Women are wonderful creatures, but they are not angels of purity and morality.... you often may notice women lying or using other manipulation. They may act jealous, try to make you jealous, use their sexuality to gain power, lie about their age... or,... ditch you for something shinier..."

I think this is a realization I need to come to that will make me be more successful, but also kind of depressing at the same time.

What is your experience with this? What do you think about their morals, etc.?

Women respond a lot more to emotion than logic, and emotions have the tendency to lead us to doing that which could be considered immortal, but what does it matter?

Their morals will be their morals. Their ways will be their ways. You're focus red, needs to be on yourself. You've asked enough about women, you need to focus your inquiry soley on yourself and what steps you can take to progress within this field. Find out for yourself whether or not they are creatures of morality.

Go approach 10 women a day, 4 days a week and come back an tell us what you've gathered from the 40 women you have spoken to.

Make that a mission of yours. "I will not make another forum post until I have approached 40 women" - This is how you grow. You have to challenge yourself and hold yourself to high standards. If you're still the guy asking the questions of forums without immersing yourself into the experience you'll remain on the same level. Lets do things different. You're still asking the same types of questions which would suggest that you're being a bit stagnate.

I would love to read a post about the women in your actual life, and less about the philosophy behind women. Save that for when you have more use for it.

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Okay. I will not make another post until I approach 40. And despite all the reading and 28 years of social skills..... can I ask... what should I want to find out about them at first? Should I just ask them interview questions? How would I get them to invest more than that... should I be learning about their past? What they want in the future?

And I am talking to a few now... but online doesn't count....

And I really don't think I'm being stagnant. I feel that I've made a lot of progress in less than a week I've been on here. I went from bragging about some real estate empire that I think I will have one day, to realizing that the problem wasn't in the openers, but in what is in me and acknowledge the fact that I don't really know them all that well in the first place.