In trying to eliminate approach anxiety, they tell you that you should remember what YOU have to offer.

So what is this?

To me... I can give them good sex, including intercourse and oral.... I am smart, I guess I could have a conversation about most things....

Guys, what do YOU feel that you have to offer the girls you are after?

If you are truly here to improve yourself, what another man has to offer a woman means nothing. It's more hurtful than helpful because it leads to comparing yourself to other people and can cause you to believe that you are not good enough.

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Not true. Maybe some of what you think could apply to me as well.

Either way, what do you think that you have to offer? What goes on in your head when you ask yourself what you have to offer a woman?

You have to offer the most new threads on any forum, ever.

That's legit.

How about just answer the question? I'm trying to improve myself and get into the game...

You know that's how Tyler Durden got started right? People thought he was a forum troll because he posted so much..... look at him now....

Man, be cool. Don't be all uncool.

Yeah, Tyler Durden is an inspiration for the masses. Your aspirations to be as good as Tyler Durden is humbling.

In the books, people say that he is gay. Any time he gets a chance to be with a girl, he doesn't do it.

I'm just saying.... don't confuse ambition with trolling. I think about this every time I see a girl and now that I know about this forum, I will be here.... just an example.... a hot girl working outside a woman's clothing store.... I stop and say "Do you sell men's clothing too?".... .she says "no, only women's."......

If I knew where to go from there.... we could be fucking right now!!!

What I have to offer does not apply to you. Also, I'm not in the practice of justifying myself to a woman...all that's important is that we click.

But think about it what you are saying. What do you have to offer girls? The question itself is "what do I have to give a woman in order to be accepted?" That's a shitty way of thinking but it is consistent with your line of thinking so far on the boards. You thought you should lead with money which is really saying that you can offer a girl wealth so she can accept you. Now that you are trying to purge yourself from leading with money, you're searching for something else you can offer her.

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What I have to offer does not apply to you. Also, I'm not in the practice of justifying myself to a woman...all that's important is that we click.

But think about it what you are saying. What do you have to offer girls? The question itself is "what do I have to give a woman in order to be accepted?" That's a shitty way of thinking but it is consistent with your line of thinking so far on the boards. You thought you should lead with money which is really saying that you can offer a girl wealth so she can accept you. Now that you are trying to purge yourself from leading with money, you're searching for something else you can offer her.[/quote]

Very true. And if I could identify what that was..... I could get a lot more. I know what I like about myself, but that doesn't mean that is what a girl would like about me. I have to meet in the middle and compromise if I'm going to meet people.

This is the best thing that you've said in all of your threads and it should be your starting point. The things that you like about yourself are the same things that women will like about you.

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Maybe. But you have to be willing to change. I am a different person than I was one year ago and one year from now, I will be different. So you have to change yourself to impress strangers, unfortunately.

Even if it's something as simple as joining a gym. I don't care if I have big biceps (which I don't). They don't help me invest in real estate at all. But girls might like them.

You can't just sit there passively in love with yourself and "just be me" and they will like you. You have to change into what they like. Unfortunate, but it's the fact. Anyone who is successful with women has made a lot of effort and changed themselves in a lot of way to attract them.

If you love yourself and are comfortable with yourself that equals confidence. You of all people can't disagree with because you have not experienced it. My attempts to make myself attractive to women has nothing to do with changing myself into something that they like. In fact, it was pretty much the opposite.

Don't you think that it's kind of odd that you are a man that is not successful with women is telling men that are successful with women what it takes to get that success? Your belief system is all fucked up and until you change that you will not be successful with women or settle for the women that will have you.

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I do well enough. I could do better. And I don't know how successful you are because you don't tell me.

How successful are you? How many girlfriends do you have right now?

I do well with women. I currently have three women in my life but I don't have a "girlfriend".

I've read your posts. You aren't successful with women. You don't have an understanding of how women work at a basic level. You don't know how to present your best self. You don't even believe in your own value. You are aware that your next prospect at sex is in August. You look at women and your nature is to devalue them. These are not traits of a man that has success with women.

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How successful are you? How many girlfriends do you have right now?[/quote]I do well with women. I currently have three women in my life but I don't have a "girlfriend".

I've read your posts. You aren't successful with women. You don't have an understanding of how women work at a basic level. You don't know how to present your best self. You don't even believe in your own value. You are aware that your next prospect at sex is in August. You look at women and your nature is to devalue them. These are not traits of a man that has success with women.[/quote]

Okay, I'm listening...

What don't I understand about how women work at a basic level? What don't I know about presenting my best self? I take care of hygiene, joined a gym, always wear good clothes, etc.

What don't I know about my own value? Is this why I tend to be delusional and narcissistic? Because I can't see my own value at a human level (this rings true)......

I could get laid tonight potentially. I didn't say that August was definitely my next time.

Why do you think I devalue women? What is wrong about my thought process on this? And you are right about that.... not all of them, but it happens a lot.... why do I do this?

To be honest, I can't remember the last time I looked a girl in the eye for more than a split second...

Please tell me how they work at the basic level. Maybe I am stupid on this. I had no sisters. My mom is a psycho so that's all I have to go by.