My first "real" girlfriend ever was a virgin and was determined to wait until marriage. She had a boyfriend of 3 years before me, some foot ball prodigy and he couldn't crack through. She was a senior in high school and I was a sophomore. It took me 2 months, but I regretted every minute of it. Our relationship had become about me trying to get her to have sex with me and her trying to get me to wait. That was all that was taking place after a while, so once I got it. What our relationship was built upon was no longer there. She got super attached, and I became super detached. I left her, she was crushed, and I ended up feeling the pain of what I did to her a year later resulting me in writing a long as apology letter. A genuine sorry. I didn't want anything from her, I just felt bad because I destroyed. She was top 3 most popular girls in school, and the tide of it all changed once it was over.

I say all that to say, be careful what you wish for. I personally wouldn't take a girls virginity unless I have real interest in being with them long term. Because if she's the type that wants to hold onto it. And she's been successful up until this point, she will hold on to whoever she gives it to just as tightly. And that may not be what you want.

I won't tell you what I did, because I can be very manipulative.. To a fault. But I will recommend you being patient. Getting her horny probably isn't going to cut it for the first run. She has to "love" you. Like she really has to feel it. If you can figure out how to make that happen.. She'll do anything for you.

Give her what she wants.. (not marriage),give her what she wants emotionally, give it relentlessly and she'll pretty much do anything for you. I had that girl giving me money and being my personal chauffeur, I did that to several women in the past but I've learned my lesson. We reap what we sow. So be careful.

These are some of the things i'll never write about on the forums. Because its information that could harm if in the hands of the irresponsible. They type of people with knowledge on how to tolerate the level of energy a woman will be giving you once she loves you to that level. Newbies will become easily repulsed by it and leave women crushed. And I don't want to have anything to do with that.