do you ever realize there is no game?

When you meet a girl, either she likes you, or she doesn't. There is nothing you can do to make a girl like you. either you click, or you dont. there is no "game"

I think human relations is about understanding. either a girl understands you, or she is too stupid to understand you.

every once in a while I will meet a girl that I just click with, and I will come to this realization. I realize "wow, that was a great conversation, and I didnt even think. I was just being myself."

but then the next day when I dont click with nobody I will start believing in game again.

I hope this doesn't open a can of worms. I know game does matter 100%

but I dont know how to resolve this paradox. how come sometimes a girl likes you without you doing anything?

Game is about tapping into some very basic, evolutionary and psychological mechanisms in order to increase the chances of a successful close.

Of course, it's entirely possible and almost inevitable that you will meet and attract women without 'game' as you said, but it lessens your overall chances because you are relying soley on other factors such as physical attractiveness, similar interests etc.

That's just my opinion on that.

The question wether there is such a thing as game is very interesting, IMO. I have been thinking about this several times myself, and I have concluded that (as usual) IT DEPENDS. It depends on what you mean by game. Here is what I think game is:

1. Tips, tricks and techniques meant to help you AVOID FUCKING THINGS UP. It's not like you do things that will create something (attraction) that wasn't there before. It's rather how to not destroy it, how to not make stupid mistakes.

2. Awareness, of EVERYTHING. Due to knowledge about "game", you'll be more aware of your own thoughts, your own emotions, your actions and how you influence other people, and how they influence you. You'll also be aware of what others think of you, and your role in a group. You will know WHY things happen, and what you can and cannot do about them.

3. Knowledge. Mostly about psychology and group dynamics. However, it's up to you to be interested in these areas and learn them on your own. Pickup and game as discussed in the community is just touching the surface IMO.

4. Self control and making a good impression. By training, experience, self knowledge and self acceptance you have a better ability to get "in state" than others. You know your way to happiness, and how to give another person a good time.

That's it, I think. This ability that you get, and the awareness, gives you the upper hand compared to other guys. It's a subtle skill, and when your game is really good it is "invisible". No one can tell what you are doing. You are just an attractive guy.

I know people who think "just being yourself" is the answer. And even if they have rather good game as naturals, their lack of awareness and self control puts them in a slightly worse position compared to a skilled PUA. They don't know why girls are attracted, and they don't know what to do when things go wrong. They have no control.

Unfortunately sometimes outer game does exist bro. But really its just acting on your intentions, being in the moment, in the zone, and then good shit will happen.

I think there are always going to be people that you naturally connect with. Men and women are opposites and we attract each other because of it. Some more than others.

But whats to be said about the 50 year old virgins who haven't managed to attract any women their entire life?


I can personally say that I share in your "just clicking with a woman with ease" experience, but I can also say that I've completely won women over who had a strong disdain for me in the beginning. Some who's friends, and family also had a disdain for me.

The "just clicking" is for the guys that are pretty much mediocre with women. They approach here and there but pretty much just take what they can get.

How often do you push beyond the women's rejection? It sounds like you may be giving up just a little too soon if you've came to this analysis.

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ok, thanks guys.
Eddie, I never push past rejections.

it goes like this:
rejection
bye

I don't think this is accurate; since girls go for confidence, there needs to be RAPPORT before she gets to like you. And I'm not talking friendship rapport, I'm talking about ESCALATION, specifically SEXUAL ESCALATION. Looks play at best a secondary role for girls, whereas for most guys they play a primary role. For guys, GAME is the best tool in the box when it comes to ADVERTISING their sexual personality in the best possible light.
Then you are not demonstrating congruence in your sexual demeanour - that flirty, confident personality which you need to convey to women through game. Sometimes a woman will 'reject' you, to TEST exactly how consistent your confidence is, i.e. it's easy to play it smooth when the woman is receptive to your advances but it's not so easy when she gives you a bit of resistance. This resistance is needs to be worked past creatively. That's why it's so important to make sure that the girl really IS rejecting you and she's not just fucking around.

I know exactly the feeling your talking about. The first time I experienced that in my entire life I was 31 years old, and it was a stripper. We were even doing the whole "finishing each others' sentences" crap after an hour. But she was a stripper, and I had no game... so what ensued was me falling too hard, and her taking advantage of me. This experience is actually what led me to reading The Game and eventually finding this community.

Now, why did it take 31 years for me to even experience that once? Lots of reasons. If we're going to keep it in game terms, my inner game was fucked and I simply had no outer game.

With game I've met a few more girls I clicked with. Not many, granted, and I do feel the difference between a girl that I just think is hot and one I "click" with, but the point is that using game has improved my chances of meeting those women.

Even if you only get as far as being able to conquer approach anxiety you'll meet more women. If you meet more women, you'll find more women you click with.

More advanced game can help you click with more women, as you converse more easily and expand your own interests and become a better, stronger person.

Maybe in between the women you actually click with, you'll just plain find some women hot and be able to satisfy your sexual cravings and need for normal physical intimacy.

But to say there's no game because you occasionally run into a woman you hit it off with? No, that's just wrong. Game just increases the chance you'll meet her.

Women fall into 3 categories. Receptive, unreceptive and neutral. Game comes into play with neutral women. The ones you've mentioned are the receptive type.

Game also comes into play with unreceptive women, if you're a masochist and want to invest the necessary time and effort for whatever reason.

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