every once in a while someone here asks "who should pay?" and there is major disagreement over this. Some people say the guy should always pay. some people say the girl should pay unless she has already given him head.

Here is my answer (I came up with this based on my own experiences):
it doesn't matter who pays. what matters is how much you care who pays. The more it matters to you = the more of a loser you are.

In other words, whoever pays, never ever act like it's a big deal.

If they bring the bill and you pay, it's no big deal. You just take out your wallet and pay and don't mention it.
If she offers to pay, you say "sure, if you would like"
it's no big deal. You don't thank her, you don't say "I will pay you half" you don't mention it. You make so much money $100 is just not a big deal to you. 5 minutes later you dont even remember who paid, you are a busy man and dont have time for small things like this.

To sum up, it doesn't matter who pays, just don't make a big deal out of it.

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I agree with mentality behind this. It's good to think of it as no big deal. I view this as an investment. If she has invested enough in the interaction and I've gotten a kiss already, paying is no big deal if it makes things go smoother. If I just met the girl and she wants a drink, she has to give more investment before I pay.

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Most of the people I see posting this, are young guys with no money, asking her on dates they cannot afford.
The best way to avoid this, is to not do it in the first place.

I usually go out expecting to pay for everything. But I don't care. It would actually be rather nice to have a sugar momma

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wait until you guys get the bill to bring it up. otherwise it'll be obvious to her unconscious that your worried about it. honestly dates aren't that expensive. you'd have to be a major looser to not be able to afford it. if u want her to pay just make it sound like some white trash situation. like you spent all your money on a computer or something. don't ever take her anywhere expensive either.

I always pay first date if the girl insists on paying I say

"tell you what I pay this time you pay next time"

never had it fail.

This is spot on, there should never be a discussion about who pays, or worse, splitting the bill. When the bill comes you pay it and move on with your life, if she decides to pay then you thank her and tell her you have the next one(you just implied another date).
I believe that if you are going to ask a woman on a date then you should expect)and be able to) pay for everything, no questions asked. Worst case scenario: the date went horribly but you ate some good food. Best case scenario: date went great, you had a great meal and you've invested something in this girl who you're likely to see again.

I never take a girl to a place that costs more than around 20 bucks for both of us unless we are dating and serious.

I bring them to like a little cantina place that has great fish tacos and has a fun SPAM. I get in and out even with a beer and a margarita for under 30 and had a good meal.

If a girl offers to pay and I've taken her out before I'll let her and then I'll tease the hell out of her that she just wants to get in my pants or whatever.

But the advice to not take it too seriously is a big one.

Other than that, I don't bring random girls out to clubs or anywhere that I'm going to be stuck with a big bar tab. If I go it's usually cause a girl really wanted me to go out and I'll tell her before hand "I'm not drinking or starting up a tab, so you're gonna have to get yourself drunk sexy".