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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:51 am 
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Hey guys,

I've been reading and implementing pua material for a few weeks now. I've read the Game and am currently going through Rules of the Game, MM hardcover book, & Style's Annihilation Method.

I have a few obstacles so far though. I've never done anything with a girl before and can count my friends that were girls on one hand. I ended up not going to college and instead working on some internet work. Cool in theory, but because of this I'm just living in my small hometown working most of the day because of a shit load of debt.

Never been to a club or bar before, but I tried going to friends college parties once or twice. Man, I was so uncomfortable and bad though...not to mention I got AMOG'ed hardcore by my friends too.

So I've decided to stick to day game for now before going for night game this summer. I go to malls near bigger cities a few times a week and try talking to anyone I can. My problem is I get extremely nervous talking to anyone who doesn't look like they are near my age. I don't know...should I just try talking to all the girls in their later 20s and stuff as well? Anyway...my main thing is from reading various discussions about the vh1 show, many think those guys advanced slowly. To me they advanced like crazy and I was wishing I could be like Kosmo the entire time.

For the past week I've been going up to girls and doing sort of a AFC Adam's technique. Asking 'how they are', complimenting them to DLV myself, and then asking for their number or asking for a date. Most of the time I get quick rejections, but sometimes girls laugh at me and shit. This has so far helped the most with stopping my insanely low confidence.

But I mean is there anything else I can do to advance faster? My goal by the end of May is to be fearless and open to anything. Everyone is coming back from college by then so that is my short-term goal. I've seen some people say some pretty crazy shit like wear a dildo in public or something :P. Is there any PUG who has articles or ebooks specifically about doing humiliating shit like that? I've been thinking of wearing a dress and not showering/putting on deodorant and going out to places. Would like some advice on that though haha.

I always day dream about having no fear in the summer and going out with people who would've considered me a social loser and just being alpha male or completely confident at some parties or getting a strippers number at a strip club (friends pushing me to go to strip clubs with them this summer) while they sit in awe. :D

Ah fuck I know this is pretty long, but I don't know how to shorten it without leaving out things. :roll: Any help at all would be awesome


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:03 pm 
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Stop, stop, STOP DLV-ing!!!!! Some people get better with that kind of approach- you don't. You are building a negative self-image by constantly being shut down by people. You need to start making EVERY approach around the idea that YOU are the alpha male, and YOU have power. All you've gone so far is learn how to be rejected with grace. That's not PUA!

As far as the VH1 show, I think it was fake from the very beginning.

You need to work on, first, INNER GAME. YOU ARE POWERFUL but you haven't brought it out yet. Hunt for self-affirming material (Ross Jefferies does some I think), because you have to be internally ready before being externally ready.

Second, you need to work on DHV and social proof. Basically, surround yourself with good friends. If your current social circle is pulling you down, taking away from you, drop them! You need to be surrounded by people to challenge and encourage you.

Third, learn some material. It's okay to lean on a crutch for a while. Learn how to use canned material effectively, and then work yourself off of it.

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:53 pm 
Rules of The Game man. Style's latest book. I see you have it. DO IT. In 30 days you'll be well on your way to your goal for May.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:56 am 
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Rules of The Game man. Style's latest book. I see you have it. DO IT. In 30 days you'll be well on your way to your goal for May.
Thanks Tripp. I read the diaries which were really interesting, but not much else and put the 30 day one aside for some reason. I'm going to begin following it. Get a date as a 30 day goal sounds awesome.

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Stop, stop, STOP DLV-ing!!!!! Some people get better with that kind of approach- you don't. You are building a negative self-image by constantly being shut down by people. You need to start making EVERY approach around the idea that YOU are the alpha male, and YOU have power. All you've gone so far is learn how to be rejected with grace. That's not PUA!
You're right. Alright well I won't be going out for two days. I'm going to be going to my close AFC friends NYC college NYU with him. It's only two days away so I can't learn a ton of material. I just need some things that I can stack with. I am pretty good at confidently using some sort of straight up opener and having it relate to something that is going on.

Problem is, once the girl replies and we talk about whatever opener I have....I blank out and have no idea what else to say! So I don't know how to talk to them for more than 2 minutes. But once I get through the first opener I get a sudden rush of confidence and exhilaration. So specifically what do I need to do
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You need to work on, first, INNER GAME. YOU ARE POWERFUL but you haven't brought it out yet. Hunt for self-affirming material (Ross Jefferies does some I think), because you have to be internally ready before being externally ready.
Cool, I downloaded some hypnotica and jefferies inner game stuff. Will also search around forums for inner game as well.
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Second, you need to work on DHV and social proof. Basically, surround yourself with good friends. If your current social circle is pulling you down, taking away from you, drop them! You need to be surrounded by people to challenge and encourage you.
Problem with social proof is I live in a small random town with everyone else gone to college. I'll also be leaving to somewhere else (no clue yet just want to go somewhere new) soon so not much I can do about that except go to college places.
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Third, learn some material. It's okay to lean on a crutch for a while. Learn how to use canned material effectively, and then work yourself off of it.
Yep learning material I can't do it too fast because otherwise I forget easily. So I take it slow and take lots of notes as well.


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