This has happened several times through out my PU career. It's kinda annoying, and I don't get the psychology of it.

You meet a girl, positive reaction, they take your hand , lead you through the club and then when she gets near to her friends, she let's go of my hand and then I'm stood there like a lemon with her back in my face. Doesn't intro me her to her friends or anything and just feel my value just crumble since she just turned me into an insta-orbiter of a sudden.

My main concern at the time was that I should be leading, not her, but I just wanted to see what would happen, my optimism was she was going to lead me straight out of the door but I was wrong obviously.

The only explanation off the top of my head is that she just wants the attention of her friends. So she kinda was showing off. These girl's tend to have bf's so perhaps it's a way of feeling sexy and wanted again without compromising her relationship in front of hr friends. Anybody experienced this?

I know, bit of a mental masturbation thread but curious for answers.

PEBBLE.

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Can't relate.

LOL. Thanks for taking the time to reply anyway

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"My main concern at the time was that I should be leading, not her, but I just wanted to see what would happen, my optimism was she was going to lead me straight out of the door but I was wrong obviously."

Drop the "SHOULD" it's a catalyst to creating a lot of anxiety for yourself. Instead, you may want to "PREFER" to lead, but really I'd drop this whole notion of needing to lead the interaction it's not 'alpha-like' anyway. An alpha will often sit back and go with the flow, it's really about the energy/frequency you're putting out there.

What do I mean? Rather than thinking about being alpha, instead think in terms of abundance vs. scarcity. You want to LIVE out of abundance; this means you live in the present moment and don't resist life. Once you begin living this way you'll have a lightness about you, people will instinctually gravitate towards you wanting to bask in that energy. The opposite is living through scarcity ("I need to be liked to feel of any worth...please like me!") and that's what scares people off. Scarcity mean you hold a negative energy, a repelling force because you're trying to control every interaction to work to your favour, this is why I'm saying controlling any interaction, or striving to is the wrong energy to hold. This is why it's pointless to try and be alpha, drop the alpha stuff entirely and your 'game' will improve, and in fact your entire life will improve.

You're getting side tracked to the point of the thread. But thanks for replying anyway.

If I didn't mention the whole leading thing, my point is asking why girls drag me around to only to plonk me in orbiter land

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Not to highjack the thread but I've also had girlfriends that were faithful and girlfriends that cheated on me. And the girlfriends who cheated on me were REAL interested weather I was faithful or not which made no sense to me. I would also like to know the psychology behind this. And then use it to advantage.

Projection. When somebody is preoccupied with their partner's fidelity, it's often an indication that they themselves aren't faithful. These are insecure attached people, so when something else that comes along that seems like a sure thing they're more likely to go with it.

I've seen the opposite pattern time and time again. Every time a girl says straight to my face, "I don't have a boyfriend," she tends to introduce me to her friends, relatives and family members.

Now that you've mentioned this, I looked back at my fuckbuddies and I've realized that NOT one of them introduced me to their friends.

I think when a girl sees you as boyfriend material, she will introduce you to her friends and people close to her. When she sees you as a casual fling, she is not likely to introduce you to her friends or family.

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Im not sure if your just asking for the answer as to why girls do this or also want a solution.

Firstly, I don't know why they do this, but I know exactly what you mean as Ive experienced it on more than one occasion. I dont know, maybe they just want a tool close by to buy them drinks or whatever. Either way its irrelevant.

Anyway, this is in fact a blessing in disguise and can produce a win/win situation. By her taking you with her to her group of friends conveys preselection. If she doesnt introduce you, you need to say to her 'introduce me to your friends, thats the polite thing to do' (maybe have a look at social violation theory). You can then take over the set. You have been brought in by the girl so its not a cold approach; youre non-threatening coz their friend is with you. Now if the girl is hot then more than likely some of her group will also be hot, so choose a new target. Now work the group like a regular set. Now if the original girl was infact interested in you and maybe just wasnt paying attention to what she was doing (forgetful, drunk etc) she will begin to fight for you. So if you run your game properly you can either pickup the original girl or one of her friends.

So basically if you find yourself in that situation again, ACT IMMEDIATELY. Like you said, you felt your value lower the longer you stood there locked out.

Hope this helps dude

Now we are getting somewhere, cheers guys.

Hellhound- this isn't a girl I fucked though. But I defo agree about girls not intro-ing you to her friends, I'm familiar with the pattern. I like that actually, that means less chance of your FB or her friends seeing you makeout with other girls at the club.

RockstarPUA- Yeah I was tempted to take over the situation and force myself to win over the group. It was near the start of the night where I was just wasn't vibe ready (it was like a 12 set lol) so that was my lame excuse...

Usually though, I can sense it's more of me being tooled type of dynamic. I'm quite receptive with people and there defo wasn't interested in her part.

However, her dragging me through the club defo raised my value and I even made eye contact with a girl on the past that I opened later. Next time , I shall let them raise my value and then jump into a new set before she ditches me so it looks like I rejected her hehe.

When I 1st met her. I escalated and It wasn't on. I suggested to get a drink and she declined. So I knew I was dealing with a time waster but then she just took my hand my hand and lead me.

This has happens like 4/5 times a year in my PU career. But never chased for an explanation.

Thanks guys.

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