It's a consequence of our biological evolution, that females have inherent social value as "breeders". This is true simply because 1) population growth is capped by the amount of viable females, not males and 2) a female has to invest much more biological resources (such as energy in the form of food, absorption of threat and diversion of resources from other vital areas such as muscle mass, bone density etc.. into the reproductive system).

This is why females are the choosers while males are the pursuers (pretty obvious, right)?

Why is this important, you ask? Because the Game does NOT increase your capacity to provide resources of any kind, be it money or intangibles, to neither yourself, the woman, nor society. The Game rarely, if ever directly competes with the females' selection mechanisms much like a hacker would compete against a security system. The Game simply forces to to compete WITH OTHER MEN, within a very narrow set of approved categories that almost always cater to the female's preferences.

The woman is the one blowing the whistle, and the would-be "player" is jumping the hoops to impress her, occasionally pushing another circus animal aside (and by that I mean another man ~ starting to get where I'm aiming at?).

Good doggy.

Whosagooddoggy?

Good Boy! Jump! Jump! Noooow roll over!

The player does get laid, but at the expense of other men and at the benefit of women, which pushes the already skewed balance even further into female territory. In effect, a player is, hardly better than a fedora-wearing beta orbiter or a feminist. It is simply harder to spot the immense toxicity of the player's behaviour, because the consequences aren't as immediately apparent and because the praise and occasional pussy that the player receives clouds his judgement. [Way to go! Base your entire identity on the frivolous judgement of the other gender! That'll make you a REAL MAN, right?]

The Game that you are playing cannot be won, even if you ignore all the condescending platitudes that the PUA experts dish out, all the BS marketing that the industry (and it is an industry no less) bombards you with, and actually manage to get real, genuine results. In the end, even the best case scenario is a won battle.... but a lost war.

You understand a small portion of pickup. Mystery says in the first episode of VH1 PUA that "It's more than just about getting girls..." I won't give you the rest of the quote, because it's what eludes you.

Why do you think PUAs start teaching others? Because they've realized it's more fulfulling than a vagina.

Yes. It is.

It's also about selling tons of merchandise and exorbitantly expensive programs. Moreover, it's about selling a "worldview". That you have bought hook, line and sinker, and are now rationalizing away the buyer's remorse.

Don't shoot the messenger. I have no stake in trying to prove myself.


But you do.

I have spent 0 $ on learning pickup and I have 3 different complete video sets and over 20 books

My worldview is wholly my own and formulated from not 1 but by many people, mixed with my own perceptions. As is everyone elses.

It was a nice try though. What am I trying to prove on an anonymous online forum?

I don't know the mystery quote, but the part of the OPs post that didn't ring right to me was the competition with other males. There is no competition. If you scurry about competing with the chodey AFCs and thinking you'll "win" a girl because of superior game, the you fit right in because they all think that. When you KNOW you aren't part of that pack, girls will know that too. All the competing males are just your insta-friends or Mosquitos. They are just a part of the environment and you compete with them is the same way you compete with a chair for space.

Haha.... right. The OP is trying to convince himself that it's not worth learning a basically free skill.

let me retort to this.... you say all the game does is create competition between men and truth is your right, but lets face it isnt everything in life a competition? your job is a competition you perform you get paid if you dont you get fired and replaced. sport is a competition you have a winner and a loser, yes in the olympics or world championships you can get silver or bronze but guess what you still lost you didnt win. lets use an example coca cola and pepsi, its fair to say coca cola is the bigger brand but it also causes pepsi to up the ante on how to be bigger, if they say we can just stay here at second and stay where we are they arent going to change or evolve.
competition is good in thinking about it, if you constantly loose at chess are you just gong to accept that you lose and think well thats ok ive lost. or are you going to go back and think about why youve lost and then maybe study grandmasters that do win to up your game.
pickup in a way is the game of chess, but the grandmasters are pickup artist teachers but youre right in that there are a lot of bad marketing and teachers but thats why you should research the teacher before paying them money, would you take out insurance just by putting in your card details and submitting after looking at the price, no you would look at the coverage and terms and conditions

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First of all, "winning" in pretty much any aspect of life can be defined as getting what you want out of life. If you want to sleep with lots of hot chicks, and you end up sleeping with lots of hot chicks... you won.

Second, I don't think most of us are in this for validation or basing our identity on the judgement of women. Sleeping with women feels good. If we are doing that, we're getting what we want. If we're doing that without trading marriage, money or security we're definitely "winning."

I dunno...I improved my dating life, ended up with the beautiful woman I'm with now (and she has an amazing personality and I started my own business coaching men how to improve their dating lives.


Personally I feel like I won... *Kanye Shrug*

Maybe you're over thinking it. AND you're also sabotaging yourself.

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I pretty much disagree with your entire the post. The game can be won, the script can be flipped. If you understand anything about game you would know that its not all about scripts and routines or about competing with other men. The truth is game is about being an Alpha male, female attraction is not based on resources you can provide, its based on male dominance. If you are a man with your shit together, no insecurities about women or sexuality and are really indifferent to weather any particular woman likes you or not it possible to have women become so compliant towards you and your wishes that its goes beyond sex. Its possible to get women so obsessed that they would pimp themselves for you, empty their bank accounts. Literately do anything for you. That is game!

I suggest you read Attraction isn’t a choice by David D and all of Vin Decarlo's stuff on natural game. No mention of running though routines or jump through hoops in any of those two books. Just be the dominant alpha guy that women want.