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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:40 am 
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Hey guys. I'm fairly new, around 2 weeks into this pua stuff, and honestly I love it and see it as an amazing self development tool. Yet I know I am complete dog shit at it haha but oh well like I said I'm a noob. I made a goal for myself to approach 1000 women in 3 months, I'm at 6... LOL. I'm dead serious on completing this goal tho and would appreciate if anybody could answer some questions for me.

1) What's the typical learning curve for someone trying to learn this solo?

2) How bad/slow is 6 approache's over two weeks for a beginner?

3) I am considering looking into chicago boot camps, but I am hesitant to pay $1000+ for something I essentially have the ability to learn myself. Do you guys suggest that this would be worth my time/money vs going solo?

4) My main hurdle is AA, could anybody recommend a boot camp that would destroy this for me?

Thanks ahead of time for any answers!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:54 am 
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Well, it really depends on what your habits were before you learned about PUA.

The learning curve is extremely steep for a 40-year old virgin but is nothing to the former captain of the college football team. Given that your approaches are so low, it makes sense that you haven't been learning as much. You have to APPLY what you read in the forums otherwise you really aren't going to be getting anywhere.

A bootcamp will be good if and only if you're really having trouble with learning the basics. I recommend it only if you have an extreme case of social anxiety. But even then they only give you the tools, the rest of the thing is just hard work.

However you show some glimmers of hope; you have enough pride in your own abilities to believe that you can make it on your own.

I learned to do away with approach anxiety for work (I used to canvas for political causes and now I'm a salesman). I definitely didn't come by any social skill without some hard work. I suggest that you keep plugging away at it. A more realistic goal is to do about 300 approaches, think about where your pros and cons have been in interactions. And then repeat.

You have it in you. I believe you can do it. I know this sounds cliche but it's true: you just need to believe in yourself. Just take it one step at a time but remain diligent.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:57 pm 
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There is no point in approaching 1000 women just for the sake of opening. The only point in doing that is to learn how to make contact with strangers without being creepy, and to get rid of that AA. So I would say that you can stop with that goal when you have no AA anymore.

BUT!!! You will never get rid of AA completely, because it is there for a reason! It is there to tell you that you are just about to do something either intrusive, creepy or weird. Because if you know how to open without being any of these three, you won't feel that AA.

Your learning curve all depends on how analytical you are, and if you can learn from your mistakes. If an interaction doesn't go well, can you tell what you did wrong? Can you analyze your actions, and correct the errors in the future? If you can, your learning curve will be very steep.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:14 am 
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Thanks for the insights guys that helps a lot. I don't think that my AA has anything to do with me feeling like a creep about it though. I'm just horribly inexperienced with interacting with females. I believe approaching another human being and expressing how you feel is a beautiful thing, and so far I haven't gotten any adverse reactions.. that's not saying much though and maybe deep in my subconscious there is some aspect of trying to not be creepy. But my main goal is to not give a fuck what people think about me anyways, whether I'm creepy or not I want to get to a point where I can just 100% express myself and not even think about any social implications. It's going to be a long journey, thanks again.


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