Watsup guys so basically just like the title says, should you at least k-close on every first date whether you guys are grabbing coffee in the morning or hanging out at a night club? I usually find myself to be dissapointed if I dont at least kclose the chick. I know it sounds absurd. What are your thoughts and experiences on this? Thanks in advance!

it depends on the situation.

I would never go for a make out in a coffee date unless I see the girl really wants it. I willl make sure I kiss her on second date though

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For me...yes. I won't do a coffee date or a night club date in the first place.

yes, unless there are some odd circumstances that would make kissing the girl awkward

Lol yeah thats true. I gues you need to setup your dates to have the best and highest possibilities available

Depends on the situation, but generally, yes.

If it's just the two of us, then definitely. If you're on a coffee date, cinema etc.. which is low pressure, going in big isn't really that easy to do.

Personally I like to lean back against a wall somewhere when we're talking, take her hand and pull her into me. If she complies with no hesitation then I kiss her. If there's hesitation, just keep gaming and try again a short while later.

Kiss closing is easy. Don't over think it, just do it

I'm not good by any means but even for me not kissing on the first date would be really weak. Is that even a date? Is kissing even a close? And do you mean closed mouth kissing? Because you can do that in a club with random girls... a peck on the lips doesn't count

No I meant full on tongue involved kissing lol

Think it depends on the circumstances. I understand your disappointment on not at least going in for the kiss though, I feel that way sometimes.

Even if you don't succeed, the attempt speaks for itself

I don't think that you should have to K-close every first date to be honest. I've had a wonderful date where i kino'd alot but i never k-closed. It was more or less a question wether i was really interested or not that set me off from doing so.
She texted me afterwards saying that she had a really good time. We continue'd to talk and she kept mentioning the date.

What matters is the impression you leave. It can actually be rather exciting for the girl if you're showing interest, but you're not kissing her. Combine that with confidence and you might actually leave a stronger feeling from her side towards you.

Typically, yes.

I don't think I've had a successful date, except for one (and that girl was a super prude), that didn't have a kiss in it.

Typically what I try to do is meet up in a downtown area bar.

Say, "Oh hey, let's go to another bar"

Wait until we're stopped at a stoplight.

Kiss the girl.

Usually works pretty well. As long as you can control your awkwardness at the rejection of the kiss, you should try semi-frequently. Recently I went 4 or 5 times before getting the kiss.

Who has a coffee date in the morning?

You meet up for coffee in the morning with a chick you're already fucking.