I'm pretty experienced with online dating and I have used it almost exclusively to meet and sleep with women in my dating life. I've lost count but I am probably close to sleeping with 100 women thanks to PoF, OKC, and Tinder. But I'm also sick of the pitfalls... The fact that most of the women on the sites are 5/6/7's at the best. And there's such a limited pool to choose from. I can only get the girls who decide to make a profile. There's a whole world of more girls out there!

I have tried daygame and it just doesn't seem to work for me generally. In fact it has led to some really traumatic experiences. I went to a bookstore a year ago and was chatting with women and got a couple of numbers, but eventually the store manager came up to me with some other associates and told me to leave before he called the police. I have no clue why he was so angry about it but he said I was soliciting his customers. The two numbers I got turned out to be duds and the girls flaked.

More recently I was at my job (a retail store) and was chatting with a couple of hot girls. I didn't number close but I joked around and talked for a good 20 minutes with them and I thought there was some attraction. (They even asked me if I thought they were cute). Well, they went home and called the store to complain about me and I had to explain the conversation to my boss which was incredibly embarrassing and made me seem like a complete creep.

My bar success isn't much better. I was out with a date from Tinder last week at a bar and after we left I decided to go back inside and try my hand at a true bar approach. I went up to a cute girl in glasses who was waiting for a drink and started a conversation. She gave me her number, was very talkative, and I kissed her a few times (she was a very conservative kisser but she did allow me to do it). In total we talked for over an hour. She told me she would text me the next day and never did. So after a few days I texted her and while she was very responsive, when I told her we should go out on Friday she seemed disinterested. "Oh idk about Friday. We'll see. I'll let you know" That kind of stuff. Basically guaranteed not to see her again.

When I meet girls from online, I seem to do so well. Why is it that the more "natural" way makes me seem like such a creep? I guess some of you guys get satisfaction from getting a girl's phone number... but I'm different. If I don't eventually get laid from a girl, it is a complete and total failure. Phone numbers mean nothing... girls just give them out because they feel uncomfortable saying no.

It's not as if girls on PoF are wired that much differently than girls at the bar. I should be able to use the same basic techniques and skills to make them comfortable, win them over, and bang them.

Also, it's not as if I am ugly. I wouldn't get so many dates from online if I truly was. I am thin at 5 foot 9 and 140 pounds so maybe that turns girls off more in person? No idea. Has anyone successfully made the switch to real life approaching and found success?

Online dating is different because women can't really read you like they can in person. So you can build attraction while not necessarily confident...but online you can appear to be. IMO, a lot of guys say things online that they would never say to a girl's face (not saying you in particular), therefore they start appearing more attractive because of their boldness. So at this point, they've built up a personality in their own mind of who you are.

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Online dating is useless when it comes to real picking up experiences. It's good for testing out your new routines or materials or getting additional passive laids. Go out there and do at least 20 approaches a day.

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It's funny. I've gotten so comfortable meeting girls from online.. many times meeting them at bars. You would think it would help me to pick up other girls at bars, but it's an entirely different beast. It would be so much easier if I had a wingman to go out with, but my current social circle consists of ex-FWBs from online dating who are generally only 5/6's.

As far as the "20 approach a day" thing or whatever, I've read all these blogs and journals where guys go out to the mall or whatever and approach beautiful women and try to get their phone number. By and large it seems like the success rate is incredibly low if the goal is to get laid. Like i said before, a phone number does absolutely nothing for me if the girl isn't going to see me. So is approaching people during the day a tool just to get comfortable talking to new women? Or do people actually have success F closing?

You don't see the big picture of cold approaching. It's not about picking up women, it's not about taking numbers, it's not about getting laid. It's about you facing your fear and push yourself to become better. Experiences will strengthen your confidence and skills. Also learning how to deal with different people and unpredictable environment. Online dating doesn't provide those experiences.

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The online dating girls have come online for getting intimate with you. Thus they are easily in your path to sleep with. But all women are not like that. So, the women you find elsewhere have lessor chances of getting physical with a man.