Hello - I'm relatively new to posting so if you guys think this belongs somewhere else let me know.

I lost my virginity the other night thanks to this forum to an HB9. We're both 19-20yr in college, and I was able to F close in a frat as well as go home with her for more (she lives across the hall) as well as one more time in the morning. This girl is very hot - tons of guys are on her line all the time. The sex was probably pretty typical for a first time (I would guess), but nevertheless she wanted it more than me the whole time. I am the first guy she's slept with since her last boyfriend (3+ months ago), and we've gone out to parties as friends (in a group) in the past.

The next morning I had to leave around 1pm - I didn't contact her until the evening, just to see what her plans were. She lives across the hall from me but I felt no need to specifically go out with her that night. I met her out at a frat, and there was already a guy with his hands all over her. I was letting it slide because she was giving me 'inside' or knowing looks and I mistakenly thought her I had her on a leash (I figured she had way too much fun last night to keep it moving that quickly). Every time she saw me looking over she would move away from the guy or use a friend to put some space between them. But he was good and persistent (probably knew some PUA as well). Anyways, I thought it was kind of funny so just talked to other girls and did my own thing in the same room.

Long story short he basically had her to the point of no return last night, the next night after my first lay. However, she was very drunk. She slept over, not sure how far he got. Either way, she was at that point and that's something I should be able to prevent (with other guys besides me).

How should I act? I was thinking about being FB or possibly something more with her but that kind of hurt my ego hahaha .. I need to sack up and act right but I am stumped guys. Maybe my emotions are getting in the way too much. Any help would be appreciated.

My goal is to at least hook up with her a few more times at least, and see where things go. Should I change my behavior knowing that she hooked up with another guy?

This isn't the discover channel on birds.

Having sex with a girl doesn't automatically make you girlfriend and boyfriend.

She is single, and so are you. I guess you lost your virginity so it's natural to feel this way and that she is "special".

You're both in college and have the green light to hook up with who ever you want.

All you have to do is not be needy perhaps tell her that you're cool with her hooking up since you're both single after all.

You should go chase other girls, you need the experience to be honest.

If you fucked her well, she will be knocking on your door in no time anyway. If you want her as a girlfriend, fuck her like there is no tomorrow and she will develop those feelings for sho.

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Basically dude so what? If you wanted you could have went over and said something pretty basic eye contact with a smile, "hey what's up?" That's it... Look at her reaction, if she gets up and comes to you and hugs you good for you... but if she stays with him well you got your answer.

You don't bang a girl then own her... a girl is free to have sex with whoever... and I guarantee that guy is banging plenty of other women(if he same night laid her) so I wouldn't worry about him taking her from you.

Keep it simple... don't complicate this shit. If you want to know what it it is(about this progressing relationship) she is after ask... but do it confidently.. or if you want to show you want more cool but if you don't then just keep the relationship the same... act as if it didn't happen and keep on playing the field.

Edit: Don't ask her if she fucked another guy, it's none of your business... I want that to be clear. You're not her boyfriend... you're a guy she fucked. If she wants to tell you cool... but being a jealous guy there is no room for, it's a pretty unbecoming trait for a person to have.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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I kind of let it slip by because I thought it was assumed we would hook up that night. I guess I was wrong! She approached me with a hug and a kiss when we met up, and she totally changed the way she acted around him when I was around, so I thought I was good. She started acting different when she got progressively more drunk.

I should have competed more, and didn't. Dumb mistake - is there anything I can do right now to make up that lost ground? I DO want more from her!!

Thank you

I wouldn't mind her as a girlfriend, but would like to hook up more before we got to that point. I understand we're both single, I just didn't expect her to hook up with someone so soon! If I had even suspected that was a possibility I would have worked harder last night.

Don't take it personal. If she wants to fuck another guy, let it be. It's none of your business anyway as you're not intimate with her. If you manned up and approached her that night before she was drunk and she gave you some attention, the other guy will just leave after he feels like he doesn't have a chance there. As someone else previously said, don't bring up the fact she fucked another guy. Act as if you are not bothered about it anyway. Invite her over to watch a movie sometime this week. If she is busy, try again another day to meet up with her. If she still resists, you already lost her buddy

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Thanks for the advice. Should I try to do that or just wait until the next weekend and go out with her again? A lot of the people on our floor party every weekend and go as a group

It depends on you. Are you busy this week? Do you have time to meet up with her? If no, I can't see why not ask her soon. Sooner the better anyway. If she is as attractive as you say she is, then she most probably has lots of options and big possibility she might take someone else for his offer to meet up with her )

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Yeah I will do this and see how it goes. I guess my ego is a little blown by what happened last night, but if you think its still a good idea I will.

We mentioned being going to the nature park so maybe we'll do that

I hung out with her just now for 1-2hrs (she lives across the hall)

Her legs were crossed at times, her hand was in that area, and she was showing what seemed to be negative body language. However, she was looking at my lips at one point, but I didn't make the move to kiss. Afterwards, she was laughing and stuff but still keeping a distance from me (we were hanging out on her bed). What should I do? A relationship in the long-term would be fine (we actually share a decent amt in common in a school where a lot of people just 'fit in', and this ISNT one-itis speaking) with me, but I would have liked to Hook up with her more and just taken things slow.

Things seemed to go well the night of, but now it seems almost like I'm a typical friendzoned kid she has to blow off - I can't get the FZ if I f-closed can I ?!? this girl is a wildcard haha

PS: she seemed to brush off any references to the fact that we had sex or to the night we got together. I'm a pretty easy going / funny guy so it was easy to work around, but it seems the dynamic of our relationship has changed. Unsure if its temporary or permanent.

Right now I'm going to start focusing on gaming other girls, but I would like to see this one progress

She's already interested in you. Why would she waste 1-2 hour hanging out with you if she doesn't like you? You, my friend, are afraid of success.. Honestly, if you can't fuck her when you are both alone in a room on her bed, I doubt you will be able to fuck her in other situations.. Did you escalate at all? Were you reactive to her actions or did you actually lead? Did you try to seduce her? Next time you are with her in bed, assume she wants you to fuck her and that's why she told you to come over.. Besides, as you are saying you caught her looking at your lips? What held you back? If you decided to game other girls anyway, you should have went for this kiss. Once you are already making out with her for a while, it gets harder for her to resist having sex with you ( especially that you have been in her already).

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1-2 hours and you didn't attempt to bang her? This sort of behaviour will place you well and truly in the friendzone. Even attempting to bang and getting rejected is better then not attempting at all.

What do guys who want to fuck her do? = THEY ATTEMPT TO BANG HER.
What do her guy friends do? = chill with her and talk about pointless, boring crap.

Don't act like a guy friend. Bossman it. You want to fuck her again, be a man and do it.
You're waiting for her to be the one to start shit but thats NOT her job. You're also studying her body language way way way too much. You've banged this girl so you've done the hard part, getting her into bed. You're still early into this so she still wants you to chase her. I used to do what you did and study girls when they were in my room/bed like "she just crossed her legs...what could that mean???" when you should be much more "She just crossed her legs. oh well, they're gonna be open again soon " just boss man it and go for it.
You feel like you seem like you're in the friendzone because you're the one putting yourself in it. This is the number 1 falldown with guys. Acting like her friend will get you friendzoned which isn't her fault and can still happen after you've fucked her.
Its changed because you're the one falling down. She's doing her job as a girl aka to look pretty, giggle and try to throw you off your game and she's winning. You need to regain control. Next time you're on her bed, go for the kill. Kiss her, fuck her, DO NOT TELL GIRLS YOU WANT THEM. SHOW THEM YOU WANT THEM.

Bang her well enough and over time she'll be the one to knock on your door in lingerie gagging for it.

The guy above me gave exceptional advice I do disagree about the body language but that's because I know what the body language means to push things along... I don't try to interpret it I simply react to it.
This line really bothered me... really really really really bothered me.

Why can't she fuck a guy the next night? And the night after that? And the night after that? What's wrong with that? She's single, she's got no reason not to fuck a different guy if she wants to. There is nothing wrong with a woman having sex with tons of men... sex isn't a big fucking deal man... it's just sex. If a girl fucks 10 or 1000 I don't care, it's none of my business (short of stds of course , it's up to you to check the quality of the field before stepping on it).

Another thing: Please realize women want sex way fucking more then men... hell you said it yourself... she wanted the sex more than you did. Stop working from the frame that if a woman wants sex from multiple people it's weird/wrong... she will always want sex from multiple people just like you will always want to fuck multiple women (regardless of whether you do or don't act).

As far as if you want more make a damn move just like what everyone is saying... I can tell you all about her body language but just run a basic escalation compliance and you'll be fine... Seriously... Everytime you greet her greet her with a smile, hug (pull her close, pelvis to pelvis) longer, don't treat her like a friend dude, you don't have to treat her like gf but you do need to treat her like more then a friend... if she's not up for it cool... just make it clear.

One thing, this is your fault dude... you let some guy get handsy all over her... she was drunk... why would you make any assumptions as to you getting her at all? You think you owned her because you fucked her the night before? She probably thought you were being kind of a dick and acting weird/distant... afterall she went to you and gave you a hug and a kiss... how do you reward her? You let some drunk ass try and fuck her (likely did) all night long. Why weren't you there to protect? All you had to do is say "hey are you ok? let's grab a drink." That's it she follows you away from him and bam... escalate... go to dorm... fuck... If she says she's good and she'll stay, so what you got your answer... you already fucked her so who cares? Move on spread the seed.

As far as moving your current situation along... it's simple... you know how you had her alone on her bed in her room? YEAH THAT LET'S FUCK. Is it always? Na but the fact is you're being awkward and acting like a friend that's not what she wants.... act how you feel(like she is sexy and you want to fuck her and have to struggle to keep your hands off her)... This will make her wet... just be true to it... "Every time I see you I can't stop thinking of how sexy you are and how hard I want to see you cum." (I know you're barely not a virgin but this doesn't mean you can't look up how to get better at fingering and eating her out).

If you just want to say "Hey I like you, you're an intriguing woman... I'd love to keep hanging out and see where this goes." You're not long term, you're not making things formal, you're simply saying lets keep it casual and see what happens...

Peace and Love,

Vic

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THANK YOU for slapping some sense into me man. I needed this. Like I said I'm still an aspiring PUA and learning along the way, and obviously I've never been on this side of the f-close in the past. My mindset is all fucked up. I'm thinking like she's 'stolen' from me or something. Damn. I need to get my mind right.

Should I go in for it again today? Man I feel like a nervous AFC lol. I will do whatever you guys tell me to do - I plan on trying to hook up, but should I check out a thread on kino-escalation or something? My problem is I never read enough PUA material until I actually need it so my background knowledge isn't super strong right now.

You're kinda right - I am afraid of success. I need to escalate this time. I will probably try tonight - I didn't lead I was pretty reactive. Damn.

Any pointers or suggested quick reading before I try again in 6-7 hours? Next time the chance comes I will go for it.