First of all, i want to say im glad to be part of this historical forum for the PUA Community. I am 17 years old, a Natural gamer which has adapted many PUA concepts and techniques to improve my game. My results after changing and learning a plenty of methods were good, for my needs, as im not a guy which goes to pubs and clubs (still haha), so i mostly sarge at day.

I just leaved a 4 month relationship in September, with a HB that was from my IT course, and started sarging an HB8 soon after (My Inner Game was at the sky,wow), but i knew she had na relationship almost as long as mine. I had contact with her every day, and she Always showed IDIs and very few IDDs, although not easily mantaining eye contact and hardly accepting my Kino. She probably liked that guy a lot. I kept trying by a lot of time ( I knew i was wrong and i would probably never do that again, it was so childish), and someday i was just tired, and knowing i was doing a bad run in the long term, i just changed to direct game and said openly (In the Mode One style) that i liked her and i wanted something. She made it clear (3 times maybe) saying that she loved her BF, although i was a cool guy and she would easly consider to have something with me (A KC, or maybe a long term relationship). My routine was clear, Strong and honest, when she tried to drive me into the friendzone, i just cut her off (She is extremely confident and a lot egocentrical, thanks to many guys driving her up with silly AFC praising) and made clear that i didnt wanted to be a close friend.

Ok, but i just commited a Serious mistake soon after. I started again with kino, even knowing that she possibly felt disrespected with it. She sent an SMS to me at a Friday, saying that she didnt liked that and didnt wanted anything with me because she was satisfied with her BF (Another silly move, i think i was ove-confident in that time). Then she said she would never had anything beside friendship with me (i got shocked and totally out of my mind, as i coudnt understand what i had done so wrong). i called an ultimatum and said that if she had that concept, i would never try anything beside "just friends" EVER with her. Then she pulled back, and said that couldnt think about any other guy at the time. I said that it was ok.

Then, i just cut contact by a month or so. Vacations came, and i still kept closing plenty of HBs, although it took A LOT of time to regain my inner game, as it was like a freefall. In the last Wednesday, i started a chat with another HB and her, and the talk just got fluid. I was FB gaming her, but then she suddenly said that she broke up. I got surprised, obviously, and she started showing a lot more initiative, speaking how things gone, while i kept myself cautious. She showed some IDIs by text (although its so hard to know when they come), and i just called her to hang out at saturday. She said she didnt had time, so i asked Sund and she said she would reply me if had time. i accepted, and started planning to PC her at the day and use my talk (Im drastically better with girls speaking than texting). i saw her online again at saturday, and tried to open a talk, but she didnt replied. Tried again at night, and she finally saw the message and we chatted. But at sunday, i tried to talk again and she didnt replied, as of today.

Im considering 3 possibilities. She may be Push&Pulling me, or she may have just pulled off by ever and may never talk again. Should i risk running for a shadow and call her? Should i stop and forget about her at all? (Its a matter of honour, i WANT BADLY to win this) Or should i wait? (she may never reply or call me again, her oversized ego may never let that happen). What do your guys think about it? please help! I dont know if this is the right section, if not, change it and sorry for my bad english!

The only ego here is yours. This isn't about honor, it's your pride. "...you're gonna feel a slight sting. That's pride fucking with you. FUCK. PRIDE. Pride only hurts."- Marcellus Wallace

You got way too emotional with this chick and you have absolutely no reason to be. Then you gave her an ultimatum and she has no investment in you to care about your ultimatum. And yet you expect her to follow you and do what you say. Then you started giving mixed signals with your kino and your ultimatum. And then you were stalking her online like a creeper.

I think you lost this one. I would stop contacting her. You've totally freaked her out with your behaviors.

Thank you so much for waking me up Mate. I just took everything so seriously, i should have not treated this sarge like a battle or something like that. I just let my Overconfidence take me, and maybe my exaggerated competitive thinking made so much emotional. It was stupid to retry after everything was lost. I Need to avoid these problems in the next sarges, im gonna be more humble in the future. Just to correct something, i didint tried Kino after the sms Exchange, as it would be insane.

Maybe if i had respected her relationship in the first time and sarged later, if i have waited her to break up, i would have gotten this, because she truly showed signs that she liked my ways (at least before i f***** everything up)... it was a failure in my personality, ive gone against myself there. And that over cocky thinking just crippled it at all. But i will learn after this, im going to improve with this mistake, everyone loses someday (im not even close to some MPUAs here in this space, and they also fail as me,we are humans), and surely im here to stay in the forum. I really liked this, and i will try to help people in what i can as you helped me.

Again, Thank you for this vital help, for saving me from a disaster, this will help me to fix my issues and personal misconceptions. I will come back to the game stronger, Had a good year at all. I just need to restart.