So I met up with this girl at a museum and hung out with her for like 7 hours. I'm not gonna be able to re-cap everything that said or done, but ima try and explain it shortly.

I meet her, I say hey what's up, how's your day? She acts a little confused since we're meeting at 1pm and I didn't say it loudly. She says, I just woke up, I said awesome your partying with me early *High 5* and I high fived her. Shortly, I asked her whats her nationality I guessed Italian I was right, made her guess mine and told her I was a gypsy and I can read vibes from her. Little by little we connected and she became attracted to me. Idk what I did to attract her to me, all I did was speak from my heart about philosophy, afterlife, meaning of life and what freedom is to me and that really hit some notes with her. She thought about the same things as me and was deep like me. I showed her music from my band and how we're going on tour soon and I how I'm the leader.

Holding hands: Eventually she became all smiles and would constantly smile around me, and I would tell her how her nose wiggles when she laughs etc. 2hrs later I lead her somewhere and held her hand for a little bit - we were both holding hands but I broke away from it. I thought holding hands for too long would be awkward. I pulled back and let go. She put her hands away in her pocket. Should I have held her hand through the whole thing? She at one point asked me if I have a Gf, cause I brang up a street about me and an ex Gf who was a model, I jokingly said I don't hv a Gf but in married. Jk I don't hv a Gf. Hellhound recommend me having strong eye contact I did that here and found it worked better.

I was more fun and lively in the begging, unpredictable and little by little I ran out of material, became boring and dull and a bit repeat active

Her interest was high in the beginning, but I felt it was too early to kiss her, IMO I should hv done it early but I felt she'd deny me (it happy so many times before). So I led her away and said lets walk in the park outside. 1-4 hrs passed. I asked if she had food in her apt, saying I was hungry she said she had rice after small talk I'm like ok lets go, she's made small talk then was like I don't feel comfortable bringing to my apt (in a polite way) I said that's cause you hardly know me, at one point you hardly knew some if your best friends, then said I understand.

Once we left towards the park her friend called up and asked her to come meet her to eat and buy food. She was confused if she should go, to buy more time with her I said we'll I am hungry, lets go! She said ok cool. So we went seen her friend, who's a dominant alpha female.
I tried to befriend her says me and her were the cool kids and we teased the HB calling her a stalker, and we got along good but eventually Idk what I did but her friends interest dropped with me. Maybe it's cause I had nothing to say and (just realized what I did) I asked typical interviewing questions to her instead of being funny and interesting, I was more silent and didn't act Alpha. I let them talk amongst themselves and they cut me out of the convo. So she quickly categorized me as a typical nice guy. Eventually the HB asked me to do The cube on her friend (I did the cube on the HB earlier) I did it on her and was extremely right. I just kept saying, isn't that interning?" Had nothing to say after that. I also talked about how body Lang can spot lies and she can find out of her bf ever cheats on her. Bad topic?

Eventually it's time to leave, before the group left I said I can borrow your friend for a moment? She said ok nice meeting u blah blah and left, after I got her FB.

(7 hrs in total) So it's me and the HB in a public street. I say, "So how'd you like the museum" she's like it was great I liked the blah blah part. I made small talk, and told her, I'm free Wed and Sat, if I'm available I'll let you know. She said ok. (Earlier when I tried to arrange a day 2 she said she only has Sat for friends). I gave her a hug and kissed her on the lips. Just once.

She only gave me a small smooch. No tongue or opening lips, just a casual kiss. I then kept going and she just laughed and pulled away, I said you sure know how to turn off a guy, is that the best you got? ...you had me now you just lost me. She's like well that's the best I got for someone I only met for a day, plus we're in a public place. Note: every time she saw me she smiled.

3 mins before the kiss I tried to qualify a little saying, tell me 3 things about yourself that would make me want to know you better. She said, you should just know, I said I do but rather hear it from you. I said from 1-10 how affectionate are you? She said depends.. With the person if I know them. I said, say it's someone you know really well. She was vague and said it depends. I just stared in her eyes (tried to create sexual tension but I think overall I made things awkward with a bit of sexual tension) I asked do you want to kiss me, she said, I don't know we're in a public place. I jokingly changed positions with her so she can't see the ppl and said, "lets find out" I go in again and she pulled away, or didn't respond back and said I'll just kiss you on the cheek. I said I'm persistent aren't I? She seemed a hint (very little) annoyed, I gave her a hug told her to be good, I picked her up from the waiste and raised her in the air (I thought I did it awkwardly like she wanted me to out her down" I left and screamed out. Text me when you get home so I know your ok. She hasn't texted me back.

When i hugged her i said, this, "look at me, honestly. (In a summarization tone) I like you, I'm not just saying that you hv a nice personality your blah blah, plus I like your lips (touched them). I feel I showed too much interest?

ThingsI think i did wrong:
I didn't know how to attract her (even tho I did)
I didn't know how to kino escalate
I explain what type of person I was
I didn't qualify her attraction
I didn't push/pull use negs or self disqualify
I didn't send mix signals.
I didn't isolate before kissing and delayed it.
Brung up sex in a wrong way. Out of no where asked her whats her biggest sexual fantasy, she made small talk and said she wasn't comfortable with saying that. I then asked, well are you a sexual person. She said yes. Me :why? She: I just am.
My speech pattern wasnt to the point, I preface things first and say my feelings.
Didn't let her feel raw masculine energy of a man with a deep voice commanding her. (I didn't let her dominate me, butter friend tried to, I might of let her out of laziness and habit)

Bad things:
when talking to her friend and her and didn't make good convo, I just tried to act big deals and tell them like how I know ppl that are really successful or what I said didn't add to the conversation - things that had no point.
Slightly, I didn't give off a lot of masculine energy


Misc: random thing I said
Me: You don't have to hide that your wildy attracted to me
Her: silence
Me: notice how you didn't deny it Haha
Her: haha well, ya (agreeing)

IMO I feel I made progress as a pua, comparing from the last two dates I had (there was no attraction or interest or kiss). How do you guys think I did and what is the PUA textbook way I should hv done all this?

P.S. Where do I take it from here? Text her invite her? I'm a pessimist and feel I blew the whole thing

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Congrats on the date with the chick, based on what I read I think I can give you a few pointers.

You might be complicating things WAY too much!

I feel you're relying on routines and openers and material in order to get attraction. Not only might you be mixing up the material wrong, but when you run out you cant come up with things to say. The main venues that you want to bounce this girl to should definitely be planned out, but not what to say and exactly when, this messes up the natural flow of conversation that you should be having, and limits your creativity to be practiced. Your mind might be going nuts trying to figure out when to neg, when to show and IOI or and IOD. This stuff happens naturally, over planning messes things up. See the BIG PICTURE : this girl has agreed to meet up with you, she's there cause she wants dick, don't make it confusing and complicated for her and yourself.

There is no need to neg this girl, she's already agreeing to meet with you, she's already attracted. She sounded like she was attracted in the beginning but when you ran out of entertaining material she lost interest.

Why would you let go of her hand, bad move! It's not awkward at all ! Compliment her on how you just love how her hand fits yours, tell her its meant to be

Don't talk about sex! Unless she's an HB9 or 10 who you can tell is a horn ball by how she's dressed. Typically regular girls will try to seduce you if you lay off the sex talk and pretend its not on your mind at all.

Bad idea to meet up with her friend! NEVER do that again! They will always make up their own stupid topics of conversations and leave you out, unless you've had sex with her already, then she'll include you in the convos. Don't ever meet up with a girl and her brother or a girl and her friend on a date, it's never worked out for me that way.

An opener or line might be funny and/or entertaining but if she has the slightest feeling that its fake its going to come off as try-hard. She might go with the flow to be nice but later thinks and analyzes what you said. That's why i feel its best to flow naturally, be funny and cocky...and if you're going to deliver a neg make sure you're an incredible actor and it comes off right, calibrate!!!!


- Man she's already ATTRACTED by meeting up with you.

-Kino escalate, hold hands to take her to a different part of the museum! Hold pinkies. Be touchy from the beginning.

-No need to send her mix signals, last thing you want is a girl confused about what your intentions are. She'll just get frustrated and disappear!

The negs and routines you chose to do have to be within context. I think you're over planning things so you're over thinking, the girl might be attracted to you but you confuse her cause you're not moving with moxy.

You cannot not know how to kino escalate, you can get creative and tell her she has an eye lash on her face, take it off for her (pretend she has one), things lovers do. Play with her hair, ask her if that's her real hair...tell her you don't believe her and tell her you want to pull it to see if she's being honest, pull it from her scalp lightly and then go into a neck massage and tell her she's too tense! boom, then you can just go for holding hands, tell her to close her eyes cause she has an eye lash and pop kiss her !

First let me start by saying no sarge is going to go 100% perfect.

Second, great detail. Great job.

Third, you'll need to study your terrain well next time and focus on isolating the girl to a private place and then f-close. You gotta develop your f-close instincts from this point forward.

Say, you bounce her from place to place around the museum for 2 hours. While doing this, you're holding her hand, eye fucking her eyes, touching her hair, touching her face, blowing warm breaths in her ear and so on. Then you say, "I saw this book at the library and it says, blah, blah, blah. You'll love it! It perfectly describes your personality." Or "I want to show you this constellation where you can make a wish and it will come true in 30 days if you have a pure heart." Of course, the place can be anywhere private or semi-private where you can kiss her and make out. Think up of some New Age topic shit that girls love and fits your situation perfectly.

So you go to the library and go over the bookshelves and when there aren't that many people around, you kiss her and make out. Don't grab her nipples or anything just kiss, rub your hands at her back and subtly place your leg by her in-betweens and covertly rub your leg at her pussy area while making out.

Then you snap her out of the makeout trance to gauge if she's ready for the f-close. You pick any book at random. Show her random shit. If she's not paying any attention to the book and keeps on eye fucking you, that's your cue to isolate her to the f-close place.

Study your terrain where you can f-close. It could be at the park, at a basement, at a clean mausoleum at the cemetery, at the back of the town square stage, or at the back of the church. Do your homework. Find the ideal, private location.

Once you get her there, make out some more and play with her breasts while making out. When she moans, go for her nipples. When she moans some more, dry hump her while sucking her nipples. You get the idea.

This is the point where you should eat her pussy. But before going out on a date with a girl, Google herpes of the mouth and master looking for the signs. If the girl has a clean bill of health, let's proceed.

The girl will put up some resistance before you can take her pants off. Figure out how to give her foreplay so you can eat her pussy. Once you have succeeded taking off her panties, play your tongue on her clit and suck on it. Nibble and suck her labias and suck her pussy hole. When you have built enough momentum, don't stop sucking on her clit until her entire body quivers or when her belly goes into involuntary spasms.

When that happens, do your tongue calisthenics on her labias, build momentum again and then suck on her pussy hole flicking your tongue around her vaginal opening here and there. DO NOT INSERT ANY OF YOUR FINGERS. Suck and play your tongue around her pussy hole until her entire body quivers again. After that happens, go back to sucking her clit.

When she's begging and pleading you to put it in, let her squirm in discomfort and make her entire body quiver for the 3rd time sucking her clit and flicking your tongue on it here and there. When that happens, whip your dick out and bang her fast and hard at the top of her vaginal wall. With your palm, put some pressure on top of her pussy so the pressure from your palm is meeting the pressure from your penis head as you're banging her. DO NOT BANG HER SLOW. Bang her as fast as you can without popping your load prematurely.

If you have done your part, your penis head should be super desensitized by now that you shouldn't be able to pop your load in less than 2 minutes. 10 minutes of pussy banging with your penis inside her vagina is the Rocco Siffredi standard. It means, you have a porn stud status and skill set. More than 20 minutes of fast banging means you're a sex god. Play music in the background to measure time. 3 songs is around 10 minutes more or less. 7 songs is approximately 20 minutes.

To validate your performance if it's good or bad, at the end of the date, bait the girl for a compliance test. "Damn, I think I dropped my wallet/bills at the cemetery. Can you lend me 10 bucks so I can ride a bus and get home?"

If she pulls out her money without hesitation or any questions asked, you did good. Otherwise, you need more improvement with your bedroom skills.

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What Hellhound said describes what you exactly have to do to get her in bed.

However, I would like to add something that I noticed here. You have a really bad inner game and you rely on techniques you read in books way too much. Don't hesitate, we all start at some point and we were all there at one time in our lives.

A date is to me is a 3-5 hour hang out where I tend to build comfort with a girl to the point that I can f-close her by no longer than the 3rd date. Most of the lays happen either on the first or second date. I personally choose my date to start at 7 pm or 8 pm. There is nothing that turns a girl on like the darkness. Try it out for your next date. Arrange your date late enough to start at around 7 pm. Take her to around 3-4 places on the SAME date. Start at a small snack place like a hotdog restaurant or a crepe place. Don't eat too much since it'll get you both sleepy and tired. After that, try to hop her into a fun place to digest, like a bowling alley, billiards, darts game, anything that requires that you move and digest. I'm sure you'll figure a place out. Your third place should be a bar and I always stress this, or AT LEAST a romantic place with a great view. This will guarantee you that you will be both sexually turned on and ready for any action that goes down. Finally, bounce to your/her place and do your thing.

One more thing, let her express her inner-self. Ask her about her passions and hobbies. Discuss her sexual life, her craziest moments. An additional plus that I usually do is act crazy at some places. Last friday (which was two days ago), a girl I was dating had a necklace with a ring attached to it. I literally proposed to her in a funny way and put the ring on my finger. We spent around 15 minutes trying to take it out and were laughing in front of a fully crowded bar the whole time while all the people (especially couples) were just staring at us and wishing they were in our place. Try to create inner jokes with her, it deepens your connection.

Routines, games and things you read in books CAN help you in a great way and I don't deny that, but they don't have to consume your personality and change you.

I hope this helped

Thanks guys extremely great advice. I have a lot more things I want to address but I'm tied up at the moment. I texted her the day after with "Hey coco, Im on break in the studio - what's up?" She hasn't responded to me... Maybe today was a busy day for her, but I guess she isn't interested? Most girls are really boring these days and I felt connected to her and she kept trying to say how she thinks off the same things as me. It's confusing why she hasn't gotten back to me. I mean she smiled so much with me and maybe it's cause I messed up with Kissing her.. but feeling like I failed or that she didn't wanna see me again makes me feel like crap cause I actually liked this girl.. I feel like giving up.

Btw, a friend of mine said if a girl doesn't text you first after a first date hen she doesn't like you. True?

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Text her a second time. If she doesn't reply, move on to the next girl.

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Why didn't I think of this? Excellent observation Xoved! Definitely a good call on this one.

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Ya deft great idea - night time is the right time lol. I reply more in depth later on tonight but for now, when should I text her again? Also what should I say?

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Just this morning, I texted this girl I'm sarging and got no reply. I texted her by lunch time saying something like, "Let's eat."

I got 4 consecutive texts from her versus my 2 text messages.

Bottom line: It doesn't matter what you say, what matters most are the emotions and vibes she associate with you.

Most girls reply in 2 to 3 seconds. That's an accurate measure of their interest level. But you'll never know. Maybe the girl was taking a shower when you texted her and then took a poop afterwards. When she got out, maybe her mom asked her to run an errand ASAP. So after two hours or so, it felt awkward for her to reply to your text message.

If you sent the 2nd text and she replies back in 2 to 3 seconds. You're good. If it took her 4 hours to reply to your second text, do not text her, just move on and sarge other girls.

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Actually wait, nevermind. She just texted me with this, "Hey you seem like a great guy but I don't think we're a good match" So it's game over I guess... I'm not really gonna' reply. I have no idea why she'd say that, it's probably cause I messed up with the K close..

But I learned I should leave the date on a high note and arrange the next meeting.
I just feel bad that she didn't wanna see me again.

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If it's night time, SexAddict's dream fantasy approach is good just before a girl goes to sleep.

It goes something like this:

HH: I dreamt about you. You had white wings and you're up in the sky.
Girl: So I'm an angel then, Lol.
HH: Nope. You're a British Airways Boeing 747.
Girl: I'm fat?
HH: In my dream, you're a sexy angel of darkness...

When a girl is receptive, you can go to sexting and then when she's feeling very horny, you call her for some steamy phone sex. If she's not receptive, just end the convo and set up a quick date.

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It's okay. There are more girls out there.

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Thanks. Either way I learned a lot. I should have kissed her earlier and ended on a high note instead of waiting so much. So I had all this attraction but what was it that made her turn off? She admitted she was attracted to me so it had to be the awkward goodbye kiss and me lifting her up in the air..

Btw, it'd be nice to chat with you on SPAM soon bro

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A kiss is a testosterone test. You transfer your testosterone via saliva to the girl's mouth. If your testosterone is high enough, kissing will make girls super horny; thus, enabling you to f-close them easier. If girls tend to lose interest after you've kissed them, work on these:

1. Make sure your breath smells good.

2. Boost up your natural testosterone.

When girls you kiss start rubbing your chest, grabbing your cock, mashing your butt, or playing with your nipples, it's a very good sign that your testosterone is high. I've noticed this so many times. Every time my testosterone is low, girls lose interest. However, when my testosterone is high, girls get very sexual when I'm near them or when I'm kissing them.

A girl who is horny for you will reply to your text messages faster and give you better compliance over all.

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I'm actually testing mine today. To find out, what level I'm at. However how can you boost it naturally?

Also it be cool to chat with you on SPAM soon bro

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