I applied a lot of things I read in Tyler's Foundations seminar. Got nowhere whatsoever again. I tried to open 10 girls, but there weren't actually that many different groups of girls in the venue. I approached maybe 6 girls. I was careful to maintain eye contact. But the girls just weren't very responsive. I was quite high energy, but when I spoke to them they'd give an answer then sort of turn away. And they'd get distracted from me a lot. Sometimes I'd ask a question, let them ask me the same thing back, give them an answer and then it'd keep dying out. Here's some examples of what I mean:

"Hey what's your name"
"Hi I'm Emily!"
*She goes back to focusing on her friend*

I was opening the group as a whole but they were more interested in each other than they were in my advances. Then every 10 seconds, say, after the interaction dies I'd ask them something else. Some of the other girls it was like this:

"Hey what's your name"
"Hi I'm Emily... What's yours?"
"I'm *my name*, nice to meet you"
*She turns away to the bar or her friend or something*

Then again 10 seconds later I'd say something else and it'd just keep going like that.
A girl I knew went there but she just wants to be friends, ofc that's something I wouldn't entertain, though she probably has the illusion of friendship. She had friends there and I spoke to them but none were interested then as soon as other guys came along they were instantly grinding on them etc.

I was speaking to a couple of girls for a while and it was okay but then my friend came and they fell instantly in love with him because he "looks like Joey Essex" and stopped paying me any attention whatsoever. Then some tall guys (around 6'4) came along and I became practically invisible to them.

Some other chick who was there with guys started speaking to me extremely briefly then her guy friends pulled her back to them. Her friend then spoke to me but then the girl I was talking to first literally told me to "fuck off" and "go away!" at this point. A fight then started because my friend started shouting at the girl for mugging me off and her whiteknights came pushing and shoving. I didn't feel physically threatened by them at all but it was just a bad situation and we left at that point. Alone. Again...

I was texting a girl earlier from last weekend and we had a short conversation, she said she's going to be at the town tonight, so am I, so I said to her "let's meet up" because she's exactly my type (she is literally the definition of my type) then she stopped replying so obviously just yet another non-interested girl.

ALSO

I used Tyler's line and said to the girls I was chatting to "can you dance?... You know, I bet you can't dance can you?" they're supposed to "elastic band snap back effect" and drag me to the dance floor but instead she was like "why do you think I can't dance?"

You seem to be coming of as desperate.
Your personality is not congruent with what you say.
Don't apply anyone's methods, use your own.

Books, videos and seminars can help you a lot, and I mean it, but you just can't rely on one person's method to get you what you want. Try using what you think works best for you, not what others use. Learn a bit from everything, not just from one source.

Another problem I think you're having is that you are trying too hard to impress the girls. You just want them to turn faces to you and laugh their asses off. That's not how it works man. You are there to have fun and that is your priority. When you are fun, people will want to get to know you because of the positive energy that you release around you.

Chill and just stop imitating other people and you'll do great.

O.K. Some work to do here...

Mistake #1 - Do not follow "a method", mix different parts of different methods and find out what works for you. I will give you an exemple based on my personal experience: Some methods claim you should behave like an arrogant cock, be the center of attention, loud, obnoxious, etc. That would never work for me because that is simply not who I am. I am a refined gentleman, the kind of guy who holds the door open for a lady, wears tailor made suits, drives a restored 1960's Mercedes and asks for a Chivas Royal Salute while smoking a Cohibas. That's just who I am, so I applied some basic priciples for different methods, and shaped them to my natural personality.
That is what you should do. You do not follow a method because that would be shaping yourself to be someone else. Instead, apply what you have learned to become an improved version of yourself.

Mistake #2 - You are being too needy. So what if a girl turns away from you? Do you have any idea how many guys hit on her every single night? And they all keep pushing until she talks back. Make the difference! You initiated, good, and if she turns around or does not respond, walk away and hit on the the nearest HB. Then the original girl will have to qualify herself to you, not the other way around. Do not chase her, make her chase you.

Mistake #3 - Work on your inner game. No amount of methods, moves, openers, lines, pheromone cologne or bull shark testosterone will do you any good if your body lenguage does not back it up. You are constantly SPAM non verbal, uncounscious cues about how you really feel, and girls are way more intuitive than guys. So until you convince yourself you are the shit and anyone who has the previlege to contemplate your presence should bow down in awe, you are going nowhere. Confidence goes a long way. I know it's hard (at least for me it was), but you just have to set your mind to it.

Mistake #4 - You "wouldn't entertain" a girl who just wants to be friends? WTF, dude! Friendship between men and women is just postponed sex. Sooner or later, it will probably happen. If you are friends, you don't need to build confort, etc. 70% of your work is already done, and if there ever was a glimpse of atraction, you are probably just a good escalation away from fucking her. And even if she is not interested, do you have any idea how many hot friends she may have? You are cutting off an entire batch of potential partners just because "you wouldn't entertain it"... She may even become your wing, and seeing you interact with other girls may even turn the entire situation in your favour and make her interested. And even if you can't get her in bed, there is a sentence I use often: "Cash, ammo and friends, you can never have too much". You never know when someone may be useful to you.

And finally, Samuel Beckett once wrote "No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better". Remember that. Every mistake you do now, is a mistake you will not do again. Every scar is a lesson, treat it as such and with time and persistence you will eventually get there.

I was basically doing that (making her chase). I mean I kept re-initiating conversation a few times but then I just walked off. I mean, these were girls I was sitting next to, for example, or waiting next to at the bar. I tried to get them to put something back into the conversation by letting conversation die (for example after they give their name I was just saying stuff like "cool, nice to meet you" and looking at them expectantly so they'd ask me back)... But as soon as a tall guy or more handsome guy walked by I became totally invisible.

Also for the record I just don't see any benefits to platonic female friendship whatsoever. I made out with her before but she was drunk and I can never get her to come for drinks with me. She may have hot friends, but it's irrelevant because everywhere I go there are hot girls and I can open them easy, I don't need somebody to introduce me... I like approaching solo too.

THAT SAID, there were a couple of girls who asked me to "tell them a bit about myself" which is an IOI right? But yeah, those were the girls who stopped paying any attention to me when they saw a better looking or taller guy.

I'm not talking about platonic relations. Of course that gets you nowhere. My point was that you can never have too many friends and never know when someone may be useful. Anyway, if you made out when she was drunk, she may have buyer's remorse.

Now, onto more pressing issues: After your second post I get the feeling your problem is related with your inner game, namely lack of confidence about your looks and height. You just have to get over it. How tall are you, BTW?
Napoleon forged one of the biggest empires in history, had milions of people who would give their lives for him, and was only 5'6". The russian president Demitri Medvedev is 5'4". Nicolas Sarkozy is 5'5" and he married Carla Bruni. Silvio Berlusconi, the defenition of a player and the guy I got my username from, is 5'5". Should I go on?
As for looks, Casanova, the grand daddy of all PUAs was notorious for not being particularly good looking.

It's all in your mind, my friend.

Who the fuck wrote your opener?

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