Is stroking their hair actually an ioi?



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:14 am 
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Hi i noticed with most girls that they stroke their hair when you are near or walk pass? is it actually an ioi or do they do it all the time.

one thing I have noticed though is that supports it as an ioi is it only happens when girls are around my age.Also i observed and girls dont seem to do it all the time... But it happens with like 80% of girls.... not that much can be interested in me can they?

SO yeah when they stroke their hair is it actually an IOI?

ALso it seems like when you get intimidated by some girls and look down they dont show the hair preen as much so would it actually be an ioi by looking down it shows DLV


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One thing you have to understand about women is they are ALWAYS dropping hints; and I would say guys miss out on 80% of them. I have a bunch of women in my life as friends/girlsfriends etc. and one thing they always say when they liked a guy is " I dropped him so many hints... But guys are so stupid. He didn't catch on "

This is one of the reasons women think we are stupid; because we miss out on all the indicators of interest they give us. But because we aren't women there is no way to interpret all of them successfully. So you know what I do? I interpret everything as an IOI. "Did she just cough?... She must like me, I'm approaching" "She blinked? I'm after her" " She didn't look at me once? She must be playing hard to get. I'll go get her"

Guys that are successful at dating; always assume the best when attracting women. I learned this from my friend austin when I was in highschool. We had met these girls at the mall; and he was texting them trying to get them to come over to my place, but they were responding to every text her sent with one word... You know what he said " Ooo she's trying to make me work for it. I like that" and he truly believed that. I was rolling m eyes, but I let him do his thing. A hour later they were over at mines.

Assume attraction always; everything is an IOI.

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Yes , it's an IoI if you're talking to her.

She's 'fixing' her hair as a reflex because she wants to look good to the person she's having a conversation with. It's not a conscious gesture , but it never happens if she uninterested or simply doesn't give a fck about your presence.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:15 pm 
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I wrote about this in an article .. I find that a CHANGE in how often they stroke their hair is a much more reliable indicator than whether or not they do it.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:28 pm 
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I agree with JoeySkillz, we are really stupid at picking up hints...sometimes it takes me MONTHS

I will give you an example. when I went to school, I had to take 2 buses. so I met this girl on the first bus. she was nice and we talked and everything. Then we got off and both went to the stop for the second bus. we both waited for like 5 minutes and there was no bus. then I said "you know what, it's not that far, I will just walk" I said "bye" without getting her number (because i didnt have the balls to ask)
I started walking. 2 minutes later, she comes walking by me, saying "I left my wallet at home, I cant take the bus, I am going to walk as well" and me, like the idiot that I was, didn't get "it"

6 months later, that's right, 6 months later, I realized "oooooooooooooh, that was an ioi"

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:07 pm 
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Depends, really.

Sometimes girls stroke their hair to fix it. You have to watch for other signals. She might stroke her hair and give you a quick glance, that's an obvious indicator of interest for example. So just scan her signals really fast before you approach, it just takes a glance to know if she's interested in you or not. It takes some experience, so don't blame yourself for interpreting something wrong, girls are always interested in talking to guys even if they are not fully interested in them.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:43 pm 
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I interpret everything as an IOI. "Did she just cough?... She must like me, I'm approaching" "She blinked? I'm after her" " She didn't look at me once? She must be playing hard to get. I'll go get her"

Assume attraction always; everything is an IOI.
This.

This frame also is a part of an overall entitlement mindset as opposed to a supplication mindset. You don't "keep an eye out" for IOIs because EVERYTHING is an IOI.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:25 am 
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SO its not an IOI everything is an ioi?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:03 am 
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SO its not an IOI everything is an ioi?
What the guys who posted on this thread are trying to tell you is to take everything as an IOI, simply because girls are always wanting to socialize with guys but get pissed off when they don't.

I'll give you a simple illustration: You get on a public transportation bus and a girl sits beside you/you sit beside her. You start wanting to open up a conversation but suddenly get approach anxiety/didn't read the signals. By the time the bus stops and you get off, you start over-thinking every simple detail that happened on the bus. You start wondering what kept you from opening up a conversation with her, then you start making false excuses of why you didn't do it. The same thing applies to the girl, meaning that she'll start wondering of why you didn't talk to her and blames it all on herself.

Keep in mind that every girl wants to talk to you, but our society planted these norms that a guy has to do all the work. Believe it or not, girls are always the ones to initiate first. They give you signals, lots of them. All you have to do is just step up and open them.

In short, do not look at IOIs. Always know that girls want you to open up a conversation with them and they are always interested, all you have to do is go for it and find out.


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