Do all these guys interact with the same kind of women in clubs and bars or in general day public? I have a hangup badly with thugs or guys acting like they are. Personally, I would never want to be with a girl who was with a thug, just how I am. That might mean I am going to be alone the rest of my life. Living in a small town now, the good girls are pretty much settled down or being with the rich pretty boys and the rest are straight ghetto. No surfers here though which is the only thing I miss about Daytona I would have loved to been around those people if I wasnt so screwed up.