Hey guys, just need your opinions on something.

Been friends with this girl (I'd give her a rating of 8-9 and most guys find her really attractive) for around 9 months. During the first 6 months we were just friends, after that we became really close friends. One night we were drunk and we hooked up (everything, but no sex). And from there, we hooked up a lot, around 6 times, but still no sex. Let's say things happened, she talked to her ex and I told her I like her (beta). She stopped everything sexual between us suddenly.

3 weeks ago, we were drunk and I grabbed her and kissed her once. The second time I attempted a kiss she pulled back and I did the biggest mistake. I kissed her best friend in front of her, she got really pissed, bla bla bla...Long story short I apologized and her birthday passed 2 days after and I didn't go.

Yesterday, I went to a bar and told her I'm hanging at this place. She comes with her best friend and we chilled. I remember that she told me that "I promised no sexual stuff between us", so I acted all cool and casual. She starts coming to me, hugging, touching my face, telling me to hold her tight and hug her harder, then she goes to another guy and flirts. Then she comes back to me, does some kind of kino shit and touches my chest, shoulders, face, plays with my hair, then goes back to the other guy and talks.

6 beers later, me and my friend decide to leave, she was at a near-by pub. Went to say goodbye, she starts hinting at me not to leave and to tell her where I'm going and stuff like that. Problem is, if I initiate, she's going to bore the hell out of me, so I decided to leave. I get a message at 3:00 am and she's asking me "where are you" that's like 2 hours after I left.

So what type of action should I take now? I just want to nail this girl because she said she LOVED the sexual attraction and the passion between us in the past and she said she wanted me to be her first anal.

Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Get ya cock out.

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When a girl will do 'everything but', its usually because you aren't getting her turned on enough.

Some exceptions : history of abuse, strict religious upbringing, sobriety, etc.

He's basically friendzoned.

And Xoved you been around a while man from what I can tell, dunno how you let yaself get in this situation.

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How does one hook up ... without having sex ?

That's like going to dinner...without eating.


Aaaanyway , get her to your place ,escalate , fuck her brains out.

And please try to not be drunk this time.

Also I'm kinda tempted to say that the whole "comes to me to flirt then goes to flirt with some other dude" is something she's doing on purpose because you kissed her friend ? I dunno , it seems to be the case.
Stay unphased.

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I understand, but this girl is somehow psychologically retarded and does not act normal.

She's been in and out several relationships from the time she was around 13 until now. She has trust issues.
I know how to turn her on all the time. She's always turned on when she's near me + she keeps giving heavy signals. I know her completely piece by piece. But this reaction she's doing now, with all honesty, is no way in hell is it normal.

It's like she wants me, but she doesn't want to pull the trigger. I feel that she's waiting for me to initiate again so she can kick me off, and there's no way in hell I'm going beta for a girl.

Trust me, I've been through the friendzone with over 50 girls, and I can read what is it like when I'm in the friendzone.

It's true, I've been here for a while, but still, there comes a time when you need to hear out what people have to say about your situation and I'm not afraid to ask for help.

This girl is literally craving me but she tends to kick me off when I initiate. I've known her for 9 months, I've seen her in several relationships and I've known every single detail of her life. I've been through many girls throughout my life, but this situation got really out of hand.

With all honesty, all I want right now is to have sex with this girl so I can wrap her around my little finger. After that, I'll see what happens and I'll be in control of everything. We all know that girls get more attached through physical intimacy and sex and that's what I'm planning to do. I'm not going to walk away like the loser who stood by her side all time and got dumped. Please understand where I'm coming from haha.

I'm already playing it cool as if her rejection didn't matter and it's driving her insane. But you never know, some people around here might have a better way or have been through this and I'd like to hear everyone's opinion.

Thanks

Thanks a lot for the post. I appreciate it.
What I meant by hooking up was base 3 stuff like bjs, fingering, etc...
No more drunk moods for me, always having a beer or two and stopping these days.

You have a point there, she might've been doing the whole flirting thing with guys as a revenge for me kissing her best friend. Doesn't matter though, I'm not bothered.

Thanks again

Move on.

Fact that you're talking about her indicates the balance is one sided. She's worked her magic on you and got you hooked. You're also making up excuses for her. Don't do that. I had this myself and it put me off my game completely, only just getting back into good form and flirting with other women, getting numbers and stuff.

Move on sooner and wash your hands of the situation. If she's desperate for you she'll hook up with you one of the nights with the DTF mentality.

What's DTF?

And what magic are you speaking of? I am already gaming more than 15 other girls besides her and I have them all hooked. My only goal is to nail her because she rejected me in a really bad way that lowered my standards big time. I've already moved on long time ago, but I still have this thing that I need to do in order to completely be satisfied.

Down To Fuck.

She stands out more. You're paying her too much attention. Just move on and forget about her.

Ok yea you got a blow job, but its been 9 months with no sex, its basically friendzone despite the BJ. And you say she wants you bad, well sorry she doesnt otherwise she would've spread her legs by now. 9 months no sex is friendzone every time.

I was in this situation once, got a blow job etc and she seemed keen, but just no sex, actually been there twice. In hindsight it was a combination of being too needy, not escalating properly, and her being a mental basket case.

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So. . . you're telling us that moved on long time ago... but you haven't. Read ^this and tell me that it makes sense to you?

Her goal = your attention. She is getting it.
Your goal = her vagina. You are not getting it.

You've essentially admitted to yourself that you want to fuck and chuck her. You know this, we know this, and she definitely knows this. Could you bang her? Definitely. But why? Is she that much hotter than the other 15 you are working on now? Why is it so important for you to fuck and chuck and hurt her? This is the foregone conclusion for the goal you have in mind.

Technically speaking, the big mistake was not working her over the first few days you met her. It's going to piss you off that in the future, she will fuck guys she's just met but there is no emotional investment involved with that scenario. That's how women are built. On the other hand, you obviously have nothing invested in her as you are gleeful over the thought of fucking and ditching a girl you've been friends with for 9 months time. Maybe this is just a sexual thing... you're horny, you're young, you want to fuck... I get it. And I understand this is a PU forum but dude... let's try ween off of the a-hole pills.

I get your point, but I'm not showing her ANY attention and she's getting too flirty and pissed off when I talk to other girls.