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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:54 am 
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Was with this gorgeous girl tonight, and was doing some bar-hopping. We were at this one bar and she told me her ex was there so we decided to bounce across the street. So I locked arms with her and began walking to the bar across the street. Half way there, her ex comes up to both of us and begins cussing at her. She told him to go back and talk to his girlfriend as we kept walking. He then comes and shoves her down. I had no idea what to do at this point, had never experienced anything like this. I completely ignored him as I helped her up and he ran away saying " I dare you to come at me bro." he was no where to be seen after a few seconds. We still had a great night together after that. but wtf? I feel like I had no idea what to do in that situation, should I have tried to whoop his ass for the girls sake? Iv never been in a fight before. Or did I do well by just helping her back to her feet? Please give me honest insight in case something crazy happens like this again. How would you have handled it?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:38 am 
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There's many ways to deal in such a situation.

Been in a similar situation before, but he was a bit fat and I do have a good physique, so I just grabbed him from his shirt and pushed him against a wall, he didn't do anything after. I did not punch him or hurt him, was just threatening him to back off. Personally, I think standing up for a girl in such a situation and defending her even if you got beaten up is the best thing to do and it shows her that you care.

I don't know about other guys, but should've at least stood up, but that's just MY opinion. I don't want to take the blame for you getting beaten up.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:48 am 
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^^^^ That.

And as a corporate security consultant and former member of the law enforcment comunity, let me give you a few technical pointers on the best way to do it.

First of all, there are a few techniques used in riot control that may help even before the actual fighting begins. Place yourself between the girl and the assailant and make an imposing pose, like placing your hands on your hips and sticking out your chest. Use a strong voice and say something like "I don't know if you are looking for trouble, but you are about to find it", or "Stand donw NOW or things will get very bad, very fast". If he does not back down, the next step is to raise your arms at chest level with the palms sticking out, creating a denial zone where you are ready to shove him.

This is just for psichological effect, and if he is ready to hit a girl chances are he is a coward and will stand down in face of you. In fact, in your situation, that would have been enough. If he was brave enough to face you, he would not have RAN AWAY as he was challenging you. There are lots of handbooks on police, military and security tactics that cover crowd control. Download a few if you want to know more.

If you really have to fight, the standard exchange of punches is your worst alternative. First of all, you are both on equal terms, wich mens you are relying on practice and strength alone, wich is not a good option. Besides, you may end up breaking his nose or teeth, and that is how lawsuits happen. On a fight you best option is to use the element of surprise, a refined technique, and end it right after it starts. In a real fight (if your life is at stake) it would mean fighting dirty, going for the eyes, ears, throat and family jewels and keep hitting until he stops moving. Now, DO NOT do that. Because then my friends in blue would take you away, you would meet a nice judge, a few attourneys and end the night in lockup gaming a 150kg neger named Jerome. On this kind of situation your best option is an imobilization move. Check a few arm locks on youtube, there are tons of instructional videos. Personally, I like the "chicken wing lock". Learn a few for various situations (front attack, side, knife desrm, etc.) You only need one or two for any of the most possible scenarios, and counters for the most frequent locks (in case your oponent beats you to it). Practice them with a friend until it becomes second nature (doesen't take as long as you would think, only a few hours) and use them at first sign of agression from the other guy. Use your judgment to know when things escalate from a desplay of testosterone to an actual threat. Usually I wait for the other guy to attack and imobilize him, but I've been on a few fights and unless you have good training you may not be able to time it right the first time, so use your judgment. You will know when it is time to act.

Also, learn a few about pressure point fighting. Basically, it is about hitting or pressing very sensitive points in the human body where tendons and nerves are close to the skin. The same points used for acupuncture in chinese traditional medicine. On a fight, they may be used to imediately subdue an assailant, make him lose counsciousness, or even kill him, so be careful. Belive me, pressure points hurt A LOT. There are a lot of this points on the head, neck, shoulders and arms, so after you have your adversary on an arm lock, this is a great way to end the fight and make a point. If in 5 seconds you are on the ground with the wind knocked out of you and blurred vision, chances are you will lose any will to fight. Also, both this and the lock cause no permanent damage or body ingury. If made correctly they won't even leave a bruise, so your chances to get a lawsuit just dwindled.

Finally, and most importantly, USE COMMON SENSE! Training and technique go a long way but they do not guarantee a win. Don't get cocky, with a lock and a pressure point you may finish off any average joe in a few seconds without even wrinkling your suit (and look damn cool doing it) but if go up against a bodybuilder or fighter without years of training to back you up, chances are you will get your ass kicked. Also, don't hang around after. Sometimes (most of the times) after you beat a guy he will show up half an hour later with half a dozen friends, or maybe with a gun. A mix of girls, alcool and a wounded pride are the Nr. 1 cause of death on bars and clubs around the world, and sometimes things will escalate way out of proportion, way fast, and before you know it you will end up with a gun to your head or a knife on your gut. So I can't stress this enough, USE GOOD SENSE! As Kenny Rogers said, "there is a time to hold, and a time to fold".

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:36 am 
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Thank you guys for all the insight and tips. This situation was entirely new to me, hopefully it won't happen again, but At least I will be prepared for next time. thanks again sir's


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