Hey guys.

I'm friendzoned with this really hot girl I met a few months back. First of all, any advice on how to get out of the friendzone, besides from doing kino?

Now, into the topic. The girl has the hots for an impossible men (12 years older, married, has already shut her down a couple times). Frequently she coments stuff about the guy, like how good looking he is, or that she had a dream with him. When she does that I usually respond with something like "you need psichiatric SPAM", or "what do you think I am? your fucking therapist?" or even "geez, don't you have other broads to speak about that stuff?" I do this to do not fuel her flames in one side, and do not show insecurity on the other side. Is this the most apropriate response?

Also, I frequently do sexual content jokes with her, from the more inocent and sugestive ones, to straight open say stuff like "come by my place and I'll show you". At first she called me a pervert, now she just ignores it. Is this a good or bad sign?

Thanks,
Emilio

It is a sign that she is NEVER going to get with you! Well I take that back a little. If you go cold on her and take yourself out of her picture for a few months, you may be able to work your way back into the picture but even then I think the chances are thin. If you decide to try this, do it completely 100% cold turkey. One day you're there, and the next you're gone!

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Not an option. We see each other every day. Besides, I just read in some other theread friendship is the best place to start a relationship because you already know each other, and we are really good friends.

I really doubt you read that thread on this forum.

Discovering each other is the best part of a relationship.

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No no , what you read there is that it's possible for a friendship to turn into a relationship and you also read how that relationship ,should it fail , will destroy said friendship.


So it's not by a long shot the best place to start.


Look , none of my successful and best relationships ever started with my friends.

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Actually I read a study that said the best relationships start out as one night stands. The best relationship I've ever had (deep personal connection, very frequent sex etc) started out as a one night stand, actually we fucked after just 3hrs after meeting, and bith of us were sober.

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As cliche as it sounds, plenty of fish in the sea, don't get your energies caught-up with this one.

And another study says the worst relationships start out as one night stands.

You had one successful one-night-stander turned relationship, stop the press!

And another study says the best relarionships are between ugly guys and very beautiful women, because the guy will go the extra mile to keep her and the girl likes the attention the standard jocks and douches never gave her before.

If that's true, why don't we see more nerds dating pornstars and supermodels?

In my opinion every situation is unique. If you spend a lot of time with her use push/pull, kino, a few negs, keep building up the sexual tension and see where it goes. When you are not with her, keep gaming other girls. Better yet: game other girls when you are with her. Also, SOP to break out of the friend zone is to reduce contact. Leave her hanging a couple times and with a bit of luck she will miss you.

As for the main topic, I'm not sure but your reaction seems fine. As long as you don't say AFC crap like "he's not that great" or the needy no-balls "forget about him, you need a man who respects you and truly loves you", nothing of what you say to that specifically will make that big of a difference.

Cheers, and good luck!

Well the theory was, I mean i didn't do the study I just read it, that relationships that start as SNL the two are more "equal", unlike a situation where one chased the other for ages, so there is an imbalance.

Anyway weather its true or not doeanr matter, but none of my past relationships started out as friends all went sexual very quick
either SNL or sex early into a day 2. And I've never had a bad or argumentive relationship and all breakups were clean and civil. (Of 5 serious relationships)

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Update:

She flaked twice during the last couple of weeks. Last night she sent me a text saying "I'm so bored! Wanna go out!" I did not had my cell phone with me and only saw the text 2 hours later, when I was going to bed. I was like "wtf?! she flaked and now expects me to drop everything?! why would she sent me this otherwise..." Time to build value and social proof, then. So I just answered "Haha! And I'm out partying". Less than a minute later, she asked "Where you at?" I did not answer. If I was out clubbing why the fuck would I be paying attention to my phone?

What do you guys make out of this?

She's a bitch, but at least she's initiating, so shes probably a horny bitch.

You got a good chance if you can put up with her shit.

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I have no problem putting up with her, she may be a bitch, but she's a smoki'n hot pretty funny bitch.

How do I proced? Aske her out again or wait for her to make a move?

Sigh...You should not listen to anyone on here since you obviously don't want to hear what we have to say, but rather are looking for someone to say what you want to hear! Truth is truth little brother and no matter how your mind tries to twist this into something positive the reality is that your chances are pretty slim and if you do somehow get this girl, it will ultimately end with you in pain and her in power.

Right now you are too easy, she knows she can have you with ZERO resistance! Until you become atleast slightly unattainable to her, she will never "make a move".


Peace...

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