I've been hanging out with this HB8.5 for a while and, well, she has a boyfriend. I've been gaming her nonetheless, creating immense sexual tension using tons of cocky comedy- I accuse her of seducing me, having a dirty mind, trying to get into bed with me etc. (you know how it is ). Anyway, at one point I convinced her to be friends with benefits with me (best..situation..ever ) but at the last minute she had a moral breakdown and decided it wouldn't be fair to her boyfriend (damn!!). She has told me several times that she thinks I'm hot, we text and joke about taking a secret trip to Hawaii and her texts get pretty hot and heavy. She even told me that if circumstances were different she would definitely go on dates with me.

So recently, being this last weekend, we went to the movies - which I know is a bad setting for a date, but whatever. However, we had to go with other people, including her brother, so that she wouldn't feel guilty. She was the one that suggested the "rendez-vous" and was all over me from the get-go, in front of her brother. I'd push her away, ignore her a bit, pay attention to other girls and her brother (who, incidentally, is the funniest kid ever) and we ended up sitting next to each other in the theater. I received tons of IOI's- she would stretch her back thrusting her breasts forward, mirror my movements and we had intense eye contact (oh, and she was laughing. A lot.) I eventually asked her if she wanted to kiss me (mystery's kiss close), and she freaked out. She backed away (our faces were originally only about half a foot away from each other, give or take) and I told her I didn't give her permission, blah-blah. I froze her out for a bit and later we got comfortable again. But nothing happened. She later reaffirmed the fact that she has a boyfriend (as if I forgot or something ).

My question to you, is what the hell is up with this? Her body language and IOI's suggest she wants my body, but her reactions are always resistant; I know for sure I'm not misreading her signals. She sets up all of our get-togethers, knows we have tension between us and that we're definitely not just friends, but is hung up on her boyfriend. How can I advance, all things considered, and is this even worth pursuing?

Im new to this stuff so what I say could easily be wrong but IMO could be one of two things.

1) Some people won't cheat, I know that PUA's say they will etc. I have high moral standards, I would never cheat on anybody but i havn't yet decided with myself if it is ok to steal a boys girlfriend.

2) You're reading it all wrong, maybe you arn't as great as you think you are in reading her body language. She may see you more as a friend.

She is not ready for you yet. Who knows what's going through her head. Don't go out to movies with her and her bro, if you want to have sexy time with her. Remember, if a girl likes you, SHE WILL want to be with you one on one. You push for this kind of meet up and if it does not happen then move on.

According to your synopsis . . .

You need to engage her emotions. Push/pull her more, much more. In fact, push her away fairly hard a few times. And then, when she comes back to you, run a major b/f destroyer.

Again, according to your synopsis, she wants you, BAD. But you haven't quite hit all the triggers you need, because she keeps REMINDING HERSELF that she has a b/f. Catch that? She's not so much reminding YOU as she is reminding HERSELF. The solution to that is to just blow him out of the water.

Hey I know this thread is kind of been dead for a little while (wow, that rhymed) but I thought I would give it an update and check what you guys think.

I did what Tripp said and pushed her away. I don't see her much over the course of the week (usually only mondays or if we hang on weekends) so our convos usually take place over text messages. I'll keep it short, here's the rundown of our text convo:

Me: "Omg I'm so bored right now, you girls take forever to try things on. I need you to entertain me!!

HB: Im kinda busy

Me: Yeah you're right, you couldn't keep me entertained for very long. You're not very exciting.

HB: No i am you just bore me so wats the point?

I didn't respond to her after that b/c well, she's doing her whole "playing hard to get" thing and I thought I wouldn't acknowledge her "bad behavior". She's friends with my sister, and later told her that she was mad at me for this, so I figured that's a big enough of a push away (or is it?). My sister also said she seemed jealous that I was shopping with other girls, haha . Oh, she apparently did all of this in front of her bf, and he didn't seem to pleased *double lol*

I know she'll get over this b/c she has no legit reason to stay mad at me, I joke with her like this all the time. So my question is what should I do next when she does come back? I don't know what kind of bf destroyer to run b/c I don't know any of her bf's shortcomings. Is there just a general one I could run, or should I keep joking about us running off to Hawaii and keep the attraction flowing with a lot of kino? (I'll do the second one in either case). Any other suggestions besides what I think?

THIS line sounds like she's telling you just to leave her alone. I'm not entirely sure at this point that she is playing hard to get. Actually, no, COMPLETELY change the dynamics with this girl. Put her in your friend zone. Don't flirt with her. Don't tease, neg, anything. Just be friends with her. Either she will gladly accept that, flat out cut you off, or she will wonder what's going on. Calibrate from there.

I know it sounds like she isn't playing hard to get and wants me to leave her alone, but according to my sister, she was only a little upset and jealous. Her words, not mine, "She's never said anything, but it's totally obvious that she likes you by the way she acts".

I know that dropping her and placing her as a friend isn't my best option b/c it is definitely still "on". I always push/pull by telling her how great of a friend she is and how she's too much of a nice girl for me, so telling her we're just friends wouldn't have much effect at this point. I think that I'll freeze her out for a week or so, and when I see her again bust her balls, joke with her, flirt a little, and see where I stand. If she is still upset (which I think she won't be) then I'll totally drop her like you said.

Thanks for all the help so far and how does this plan sound? Should I just go with the flow and not worry about it, or keep gaming her?

Ok, if you're certain that my impression from my last post is wrong, then cool. Good for you. In which case my suggestion is to go back to my previous advice and throw a major b/f destroyer out there. The point is this, if you're wanting to PROGRESS with this girl, you HAVE to change the dynamics of the relationship.