So I am pretty short and I think that makes my game a little more difficult to execute (of course this could be an excuse too). I think most girls don't really want a short guy, at least they don't think they do. Of course if you are a PUG, then even that can be nullified, but does anybody have any advice as to how I can use this to my advantage.

I think I'm a decent looking guy, smart, witting (so I can hang with almost any conversation and throw it back pretty good). Some of my better attributes is that I'm pretty in shape (not boasting, but I would consider myself in the top 5 percentile), and I'm a pretty badass dancer (phew I have something going for me). I've actually noticed that the dancing does lure them at first, but it doesn't necessarily help close the deal.

Edit: I'm about 5'4"

New to the community here, so I don't really know how much it changes your game. I know someone at my school who's the same as you though. I would say he's about 5'4" but could be a little taller (no more than 5'6"). Anyway he's in really good shape too and girls think he's pretty good looking. He gets a ton of girls. Out of everyone in my dorm freshman year, he probably got the most. I don't know how many he slept with, but I know a lot of them were attracted to him. I never asked him about women or anything since I wasn't interested in picking up back then, but his height didn't seem too much of a factor. Then again, he was probably a good ways above average in the looks department.

Its in your mind. Everything you said was "I think this..." "I think that."

Im 5'6". Im short, but im not gonna let that shit hold me back. If a girl doesn' like you cause of your height then forget about that stupid insecure bitch and move to the next one.

Btw, there is this guy, Neil Strauss. Hes 5'6" AND bald. I heard hes a pretty good pua.

Im 5'7 and i've been with and been out with girls over 6ft. The fact is that if they are attracted to you it does'nt matter. Sure its a disadvantage but nothing you cant make up for. There are alot of girls out there around your height and smaller, also women dont mind men abit smaller than them. run game on the tall ones just to see what happens.

Women say 'my ideal guy would be 6ft +'

Translation 'i want a guy im attracted to'

What women say they want and what they really want are 2 different things.

if u dont make it a problem, it wont be. dont let them see that youre at all insecure about it. and they wont even notice.

i use to think the same a while back, im only 5'6" but ive had good relationships with 2 taller girls.. 5'8" and 5'10". and i didnt even start the relationships. theyre the ones who started the ioi's with me. so i knew i mustve been doing something right as far as body language and appearance.

i would not like to be skinny tho. i think any short guys who bulk up a little bit and workout have a considerable advantage over average/ scrawny guys.

my 2 cents.

David D has a guy whos a midget and in a wheelchair...

watch the rules of the game videos on myspace, the guy winning most of them seems to be shorter then all the chicks he aproaches. I assume hes a short guy.

Its an excuse, work on that in your inner game and blow past it.

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It really is just an anxiety thing. Spend some time intentionally talking to tall girls, to work yourself into a comfort zone with tall people.

This weekend I was talking with chick at least 6in taller than me (I'm short too). I was half-sitting on a tabletop, and when she came over to me I negged her a bit because "I have to stand taller to keep from looking bad." Then I half-sat back onto the table and said, "No, I think I like the view from here..."

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I can recall who stated this but girls only state they are attracted to guys 6'0+ is because of their ability to protect her.

I am 5'9 but 195lbs so if I am with a girl she feels secure, just hit the gym a bit more.

ok how about this. I was kind of working on this girl over the weekend. I felt pretty good, and to be honest even though I didn't close any deals that night it was a great night. Anyway, I was working on this girl and it was going alright and I was definitely making headway and then she throws out "yeah, but I'm like a foot taller than you." Now my question is, should I have thrown a neg her way? Because I feel pretty fit, and I could tell she wasn't quite as fit I was going to say something like "yeah, that's alright, you're 30 lbs heavier too, but I don't mind." But I didn't, partially because my game is weak right now, and I just didn't have it together enough to throw that at her. But in a situation like this do you think a neg would have worked. And how would I have negged her without making it into a pissing war, which is what I think I was expecting would happen if I said that.

Thats her shit test. She was testing you to see if you would have been uncomfortable in that situation. I don't think that the 30lb joke would have gone over too well. Uglieness and weight are two things i tend to avoid negging about.

YOU: "O silly me here i am concerned with your personality and all you can think about is pysical appearence"

YOU: "I didnt even notice..."

YOU: "You know ive been drinking miracle grow for weeks now and havnt grown an inch...go figure."

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Oh shit! those are great!

That miricle grow line is a killer!