Of course it is common knowledge that a 10 refers to the most attractive women, and as you get lower they get less attractive. But it still seems really arbitrary to me. Sure if you showed me a woman and asked me if she was a 10 or a 5, I could mostly likely tell you. But is there really a way to distinguish 10s from 9s or even from 8s and 7s? I feel like when a guy labels a woman as a 7, 8, or 9 as opposed to a 10, he usually sees her as attractive but she doesn't fit his personal taste. But these women probably fit the tastes of lots of other men and as a result would probably get the same attention as a 10. I feel like it would be better to only have a few categories, such as "very attractive", "moderately attractive", "slightly attractive", "unattractive", and "ugly".

Is there any way that you guys distinguish between a girl who is a 10 and one who is, say, an 8, other than your own personal attraction to her?

Who cares? You either want to take her home or you don't. There's no point in going any further than that and wondering if she's a 9 or an 8.7453.

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Well, I'm asking because PUAs sometimes make distinctions between how to approach a girl who is a 10 as opposed to one that is a 7 or an 8. I think I have even read somewhere that even though 10s are the hardest to game, 6s and 7s are harder than 8s and 9s. I don't even know how to distinguish between them.

Well calling someone a 7 or a 9 could be widely different for some people...Honestly, I never see 10's ever. 10's for me basically don't exist because people are people they aren't perfect. Also, 9s for myself run in that same type of range but obviously there are a ton of 9s that I see but usually 9s and 10s are just too hot and too stuck up so I usually talk to 7 or 8s because they seem to be down to earth and if they are a 6 they have to have a sick personality or I just friend-zone them and if they are lower than a 6 then I wont even talk to them. So, basically what I am getting at is that people have different spectrum's on what they feel someone is...I'll rate a girl a 9 and you will rate her a 10 it just differs.

Ok. Girls that are '10's I guess would be literally the most beautiful girls ever. The ones that have a gorgeous EVERYTHING: ass, face (especially), tits, body, etc. 10's are really the only thing to distinguish from if you're trying to game them vs other girls. But you just want to make sure you have an interesting life and that you aren't needy at all, and you'll be attractive enough. Just realize that '10's always ALWAYS are talking to multiple guys because almost every guy they've every been friends with has ended up like them. So you have to stand out. What makes you better than all the other guys she's friends with?

If they're not a 10, (you'll know a 10 when you see one), then you won't really have to worry about it, because a 1-9 (again, I don't like these rating scales) won't get nearly as much guys as 10's do.

Also keep in mind that a girls beauty is completely subjective...except for most 10's...if you see a 10, she's a girl that almost every single guy will think is fucking gorgeous.

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Hmmm, interesting. When you say that 10s are the most beautiful girls ever, you mean ones that MOST guys would say are very beautiful. As in, they have to look conventionally beautiful, like models. For example, Kim Kardashian or Eva Mendez.

But what I find tricky is that some girls don't have the model look, but they have looks that many guys find beautiful and they get tons of attention. For example, I have found that the exotic features of black/mixed girls are desired by a lot of guys, and because of this, even 8s and 7s with these types of features will get the same kind of attention that 10s normally get. An example of this is Rihanna. When you look at her facial features, you'll notice she's actually not all that beautiful. I could see how some guys would even say she's ugly. But she is still considered one of the hottest celebrities. I would guess that's because of the exoticness factor.

Idk, I actually tend to think that 7s and 8s and 9s would get more attention than 10s because the 10s would be intimidating to most men.

You're talking pointless theory. There is no different method that you would use to approach a very beautiful girl from the way you would approach a kind of beautiful girl. A woman's looks are, as someone said, subjective. You can't simplify taste and say that there is a universal standard. Use this scale:

Girl I would fuck
Girl I would fuck under certain circumstances
Girl I wouldn't fuck

You will show different kind of interest in every girl. You're not going to affect the way you approach the seduction. If you want to seduce a girl, you will seduce her going off of deeper things than her looks.

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Answer: There is no other way because there doesn't need to be If you know what you want in a woman (And if you want to succeed, you need to learn what you want ASAP)

I might be repeating some things people have previously said but its all about personal taste.
For example: Take your typical good looking woman, lets say she is a HB8.
Then add some other traits about her, such as she's got tattoos or piercings or even her hair colour if she dyes it - This could make your personal liking to her go up or down the scale by 1 or even 2 points.

To you this woman might be the best looking female you've seen all day/night but to me or someone else she was overlooked in a crowded room and not even getting a second glance or any IOI's.

In general what you like in a woman may not be for everybody so its purely your perception of an individual.
At the same time don't let your friends talk you down from a potential approach just because one of them doesn't approve of her, this is a similar thing women do in groups when a guy approaches one of them, which is known as 'c*ckblocking', although your target might approve of you, her friend might not (for any number of reasons such as disapproval or even jealousy to name just a couple), giving you a test to deal with, influencing her initial decision and giving you a little extra work to do.

Ultimately, if you like what you see and you want to talk to her - Then talk to her and take if from there.
Half way through an interaction I've actually lost interest some of that initial attraction in some women due to their lifestyle or their general behaviour - Beauty sometimes really is only skin deep.

You also have to remember that this number grading system doesnt always apply to just their looks, but their own perception of themselves, especially when gaming them. For example, you could have a girl that you would call a 10, however she might have self-esteem issues, and only think of herself as a 7 say. Therefore gaming her as if she was a 10 wouldnt be a good idea (most pua's would neg a 10 a lot more). And vice versa and girl who most men would call an 8 or 9, may have high self esteem and think she's better looking than she is.

This also can change from situation to situation. A girl will go out to a club in her best outfit, hair done up, make up perfect, and she knows she's a 9 or 10 (obviously girls dont grade themselves as numbers but you get what i mean), However the next day when she's out food shopping wearing tracksuit bottoms, hasnt done her hair or makeup, she wont be as confident as she would the night before. So I guy coming up and interacting with her with negs might not be appropriate in that situation.

You will find this sort of thing a lot in life. For example a girl at my work is absolutely stunning, in my eyes a 10. I told my workmate i was thinking of trying it on with her, he warned me that she's got a lot of issues. She's had problems in the past with anorexia, depression, anxiety, paranoia etc... So I abandoned my plan to use negs. Still a work in progess at the moment though, but i think its going well!

This is all based on preference.

I think a 10 is generally a 10, if all of your friends agree she is. It's mostly a consensus. If there is any real debate, she's probably a 9.

It doesn't matter. A 10 to one person could be an 8 to another, and a 7 to another yet.

I have found out that personality does a lot for me, it can turn a pretty good looking girl into a really good looking girl in my eyes, I love the seduction- I love building up sexual tension with a girl.

A girl can be a pick up artist too, many know it instuitively, and some play the game better than others.

Rank them from 1-5 then.

Something like:
0-10% (ugliest) is a 1
10-30% is a 2
30-70% is a 3
70-90% is a 4
90-100% is a 5

Or something. Do what works for you.