so last week i ended up at the bar with a group of 7 girls ranging from 5.5 to 8.5 and a buddy of mine from work... since i hadn't planned on attending the bar that night i wasn't dressed or groomed, and had no intention of sarging and spent my time enjoying the company of my group. and i did

but at one point in the night i was approached by a cute girl(6.5) and we talked for a bit, she asked what i did and i felt i did a good job of disarming the question by saying i was a salesman for Mercedes, i told her that i lied and we discussed the cars and so forth. we both had to leave so we excused ourselves and went on our ways saying that if we met up later that would be awesome.

so a couple minutes later i happen by her again, standing alone at a tall table... so i approach her from the side and restart conversation asking if i was boring her or wasn't good enough for her jokingly. we start talking again and i still feel i was doing good at this point, then she mentions that she needs a drink to keep her hands busy... which caught me off guard and i basically came to a stop and said i would be back with a drink and took off...

now sorry for the large back story, but my question is what are some good hand usage routines? i know guessing the finger and the one from mystery's show with the circling pointer fingers... but there has got to be more, i have looked and looked for more and i keep thinking there is another hand trick from mystery's show. can anyone give me any incite into this? so next time i can run a hand routine or two then open up into other comfort and seduction routines

lol I know a girl who fidgets like crazy and believe me, she always finds something to do with her hands. That was just her way of getting you to buy her a drink... it was a shit test and if she thought you were going off to buy her one you displayed lower value. Live and learn, eh?

Anyway, I don't think there are any routines specifially that use her hands apart from palm reading. If you get that line from a girl again just laugh and say "yeah, nice try! How about you buy us a couple then?" And go from there.

Yeah, she was just getting you to buy her a drink, don't fall for it, never buy them a drink unless they bought you one first and even then, you don't have to do it, unless that was the agreement.

As for the backstory, when you said you asked her jokingly if you were boring her, even jokingly it is a bad thing, because it displays uncertainty and a lack of confidence.

There was only the one hand routine from the VH1 show, but you can always have a thumb war.

Lastly, you should have gone for the number close instead of just saying that it would be nice if you ran into each other again later.

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thanks for the feedback guys, i figured she was just after a drink... and since it is still VERY early in my PU career(being the second time i have gone out since finding out about PUA) i did take it as a learning experience... and i figured if i could have used her lame excuse against her to continue conversation and building seduction.

but seriously? trying to # close after we first went to split, that just seems to early for my tastes. but maybe it is something i have to grow into, since i have a past of being a HUGE afc

Concur with Rye....

'To keep her hands busy' Never heard that one before though.....

If you keep the interaction interesting, she would have no need for having something for her hands.

Plenty of things for hands (Thumb war, ring routine, palm reading) but that really was not the point.

Learn five questions game.

After she said that she needed a drink, you could have said that you could use one also and tell her what you want.

If she did not want to get it for you, play the game to determine who gets it.

Even if you lose the game (I do not know anyone who has) it still does not convey the information that just outright buying her the drink would

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