I don't have approach anxiety, I open extremely well...DHV, don't show the girl much attention at first, kino...all really well...


But after I got her eating out the palm of my hand(a little exaggeration lol) I can never number close, or kiss close...

Any SOLID canned routines fellow PUA's out there use to close??

I rely heavily on canned routines to somewhat "break in" to the convo and build my comfort level..Its easier for me to approach women when I have a routine because I focus more on the open/dhv/kino/neg than I do the actual girl herself...

Please help!

I like that you aren't just out "getting numbers" and you actually have a game plan. I think where you are losing is in building comfort and rapport and actually BRINGING UP her value to your value AFTER you have risen your own so high. You seem like you are practicing Mystery's stuff. The one thing that he does that newer guys don't realize is he brings his value up so fucking high and negs the girl SOOO hard... he makes the girl feel useless. She doesn't want to feel like that. Instead of using negs, start giving more IODs with your body language and your kino escalation and more the way you word phrases. Being a bullshit artist and knowing how to keep a story running is really essential to being a great pick-up artist. I tell people all the time, if you don't understand how to do that, watch Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Start qualifying her after you are getting a few IOIs. Make her work for you and let her know that you are interested in HER and not only her vagina. In order for a girl to want to see you again, (meaning you got her number the RIGHT way) kiss you, or have sex with you, she has to feel a certain amount of comfort. Basically, what you wanna do, is start spending more time just TALKING and less time worrying about what move you're going to make next. Once you have mutual attraction established and you have "qualified" her, you can stop with the DHV shit. You're human for fucks sake. Not Superman. The big thing you want to make sure really is that you don't DLV and you allow HER to talk and bring HER value up. You're value is already high so make sure you don't lower it.

I'll map this out a little bit for you. I play with mine/my targets value literally up until we hit that comfort phase.

Open-You approaching a girl automatically lowers your value. You coming up to her, she assumes you are going to hit on her because that's what every guy does.

Your Value: 5
Her Value: 9

Neg- Neg her to disqualify yourself as someone who is hitting on her and also slightly lower her value. Treat a neg as a stone, not a boulder. We don't want to fuckin knock her down... We wanna just throw her back a bit.

Your Value: 5
Her Value: 5

DHV- Now that her value is lowered. You want to bring your value up. This is where the attraction starts to build.

Your Value: 10
Her Value: 5

Qualify- Now you want to bring her back up. This is where you start complimenting her

Your Value: 10
Her Value: 9

(Vulnerability)- This part isn't necessary, however, with some girls I like to throw a vulnerability story in there.. Where you kinda "open up" to her. It really just lets her know that you have feelings. Some guys don't like to do this cause they think it makes them sound like a "pussy" but the alpha male has no problem controlling his emotions. Just make sure what you talk about isn't any thing creepy or weird. Like how the smell of asparagus reaches your urine within 10 seconds or some shit. I have this story I usually use about my sister falling down the stairs and she started crying and I ran towards her and she wanted to dress me up or some shit.

Your Value: 9
Her Value: 9

Comfort- This is where you really should (if you haven't already) kissed her. And NOW is when it really means something to get her phone number. A cell phone is NOT a substitute for communication. It is a means of communication between seeing her again. By finding enough common ground, you should be able to have something that the 2 of you can do together within the next few days. You have now established yourselves as a high value "couple." Again, no real need to neg any more or keep throwing in DHV stories. Just make sure you don't run into a shit test and lower your value.

Your Value: 10
Her Value: 10

Hope this helps you out bro.