I fucked closed this HB7 on Friday night...She was clearly attracted to me physically from the moment we met and all I had to do was not fuck it up which I managed... Anyway got and invite back to a party at hers after the club, played it cool got off with her and she eventually convinced herself to have sex with me even though she claimed she didn't really want to.

This woman is clearly doing better than me in life..she works as some kind of medical scientist has a lovely big house and lots of expensive hobbies etc...where as I am back living with my parents and in-between jobs rights now. She's a smart cookie and acts very shy and coy, doesn't give much away and doesn't respond to my cocky funny banter in a predictable way making gaming her difficult. She also told me on that same night that her ex partner was abusive and raped her etc which I found strange...thinking it is maybe true but she was using it as some kind of shit test to see how I would react.

She was texting me yesterday so I take this as and IOI but nothing from her today..

I know the rules of the game shouldn't change and I should just game her like any other chick but does anybody have any advice in dealing with this kind of woman?

Believe it or not women are not as superficial as men are,underneath her finanical status, she is still a woman and still has all the feminine insecurities.

She wants a man more then money, someone to make her feel safe and protected. Someone to dominate her sexually in bed. The fact that she discussed with you her previous abusive relationships is a general sign of interest and need. Need of a good man, be that good man.

If you want to win this girl over, you must lose the mentality that she has more then you and that it matters at all. Give her the feeling that you are a good man and will make her safe and protected.

Do all this and the rest should fall into place.

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wise words!

Money does not matter, I am currently with a really rich ass chick, like millionaire
"daddy's little girl" type girl.

I just don't bring it up, and she will say you pay for my blah blah blah, and I say do I look like a SPAM card, and just make fun of her for being so shallow, literally had this convo with her yesterday (sunday) she said oh... its okay I dont even eat much so don't worry.

First off weird ass reply by her but point is she realized I am not going to succumb to this shitty frame and then later apologizes for her response and gives a stupid response to make up for it.

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Looks like I was right, this girl hasn't been showing that much interest since that night I F closed her. If I drop her a text she will usually answer it but sometimes takes a while. Iv never actually managed to get a second day with her as she always has a good excuse which is usually work related. She knows Im kinda in-between jobs at the moment and I think this is what's putting her off

Last exchange of texts went like this and kind of confirms what I thought:

Me: Still got a bruise on my shoulder from your bite btw . What you been up to Mrs?

her: Sorry lol. Ive had flu, feeling better tho x You?
me: Sorry? Im still waiting on a matching one for the other side . Had the flu, no luck! Ended up in a club last night.

her: No luck to you lol. Was it good? X

me: I got lucky that one night tho eh lol. IT was heaving, couldnt move for people in outrageous costumes.

her: Did you dress up? Yeah you did . Iv not been out. im also sending shitty work emails just now zzzz x

me: Its a shame your pals were in that house otherwise it could have got very steamy that night haha. I think you need a brake from that work stuff one night. I was going to dress up but count be arsed in the end.

Her: I think I need to win the lottery!! lol X

Me: Dont we all. Why you in particular?

Her: Because I sooooo deserve it lol x Did you get that job?

Me: Yeh and I deserve to be banging Kelly brook every night lol

Me: Not herd back about it yet. Got other jobs in the piple line

Her: Id rather win the lottery x

Me: I suppose if I won the Euro millions I could be banging anyone I want lol

Her: Dont Know about banging anyone you wanted lol X

Me: Euro millions 100 million hmm think Id have a few options lol So your a money oriented person then are ya?

Her: No, Just not a banging anyone person X

me: Hahaha Was that a dig?

Her: No, its a compliment kinda x

Me: Good I thought I was going to have to make fun of you for being so shallow their Night night....


I do think that the No, Just not a banging anyone person comment by her was a bit of a dig at me.. what do you think?

You might want to invest your time in a couple different people. Im not saying to give up on the current one, but to be open to actively looking for people to replace the one you are currently going after

Not sure how much you can generalise, but I've read a lot of articles about rich and successful women being quite open to confident, powerful men in their personal lives. Many of them spend a lot of time at work ordering guys around so away from the office they quite often like to be made to feel like a 'real' woman and have a guy who's willing to take charge.

Give her the best fucking sex she's ever had. Better then money man.

Get your mind off the money. It'll only be an issue if you make it one.

Also, maybe you are overtexting? As I understand, a high value guy has better things to do than banter via text. I didn't see once in there a solid push for a meet up.

Yeah that was the first time i had texted her in 4 or 5 days, I tried a push for meeting a couple of time previously and she always had an excuse. Fuck her I think ill try once more near the weekend if shes not game Ill next her. Iv got other prospects on the go as well.

This. She will only be higher value than you if you perceive her as higher value. Never be impressed by her money, and it will never become a factor that could hold things back or change her/your mindset.

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I do know 1 thing though, bitches they come they go

Why not just observe your own life? How many friends do you have who are far outside of your immediate socioeconomic background? Why do you think things are this way?

As much as horny 18 year olds and 40 year old virgins think life and relationships revolve around orgasms, it simply does not. What is it with you kids who think you'll pick up every girl and attract every chick by the power of your dick? Take it easy with the porn. . . it's really messing you up.

But let's give 'sex' some value. . . A sex-addicted friend of mine once told me that good relationships should be 30% sex based. Now, if you think about it. . . and really inject 30% of your life with sex, I promise you that this is unreasonable for most guys. Which is why she went through so many guys but this is another story.

So even with this high level of sex, what then is the other 70% of a relationship? Somebody replied, "Make her feel protected and safe". . . OK. . . how? By using nice words? What are the tools we have to express our love and support?

1. Communication.
2. Spending quality time.
3. Gifts. (Yes, as much as this seems like death to aspiring pua's, boyfriends and girlfriends GIFT each other.)
4. Acts that add value to the other's life.

Let me know if you can think of any others forms of expression but here's where the importance of money comes into play. How will you express 2,3,4 to your lover(s) or friends if they are not in your socioeconomic level? This has little to do with how deep or shallow people are and more to do with the nature of the World we live in.

The problem with your latest text conversation was the emphasis you placed upon it. All you talked about was your recent sexual encounter and based on her responses, she was not in that frame of mind.

I am not sure what your intentions are with her whether you want to date her or just have sex again... Regardless, any form of communication is still a conversation. If you are going to text her again be sure to engage her, make her smile, make her laugh. Be friendly. Show interest in her as a person and don't talk about sex at all. ( pretend you haven't even got it from her yet, unless she brings it up) Intrigue her.

Try to get her for a friendly meet, whatever it takes to get her in person. There's a good chance that once she see's you again she will remember her physical attraction. Then you can go from there( sexually)

One thing I have learned when it comes to dating successful women and not being at their current financial level is this: Women will put equal value on a man of ambition and good character then that of an already successful man.


As far as your current status, chin up friend. Life's always going to have ups and downs. All that matters is what you do from this very moment on.

Be the man you know you can be instead of the man you think you are.



Good luck.

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your text conversation is really creepy, sexual and tryhard. everything is all about sex with you. furthermore, you couldnt even really follow the conversation. youre going to creep her out or make her just feel like youre only into her for sex.

the good news is that girls that arent at least *somwhat* into you in some way wont carry on a conversation that long. if she totally wasnt interested she probably would have stopped responding after only a few messages.

i would recommend focusing your text conversations on being fun and playful. take her on an adventure. be random. roleplay. be more interesting. whatever you do stop talking about fucking all the time.

Just a little update on this one, got a text from her out of the blue last week, hadn't spoken to her since the texts posted here a few month back. I figured fuck her and went on sarging other women. Anyway went to meet her for a drink(she was already drunk), got told yeah I really like you but there is a few things that puts me off you: your a cocky bastard I don't like guys like that bla bla....(yeah right!) she was also trying to figure out my net worth asking questions trying to figure out what sort money I earn since she announced she earns £45k plus(not as well off as I first thought BTW), she got no answer of course.....Anyway I just played it cool, kept up the cocky playful banter and got the lay no probs.

I think it was more than likely just a booty call but I thought Id give her the benefit of the doubt and texted her again a few days later to test the water and see if it was still on. But she seems to have went back to the mode she was in before, all fun a flirty via text and seems semi-interested but avoiding actually meeting me for some reason.

I am unsure how to proceed with this chick if she just wants a fuck buddy then hey Iv no probs with that but I really need to gain the initiative and take control. But how do I do that without coming across as needy? if I call her on her user like behavior Ill just be giving her power. If I ignore her and go about my business it will likely be another 6 months before out paths cross again

I think the "get more girls" is usually sound advice which I am working on almost every weekend but I would like to her to be on the fuck buddy list.