Having read only two books on seduction, The Manual: What Women Want and How to Give It to Them by W. Anton and The Game by Neil Strauss, it seems to be the case that there are two distinct styles.

The first is a kind of natural confidence and flow and developing a mindset, without pre-selected learned routines, while the second style is about routines, techniques and learned lines. I can't comment on the success of either because I have little experience, but I am wondering which would be more effective.

Regards

They both lead to the same end-result, but with learned routines you're putting much more importance on the process. You can vary it, toy with it, whatever. Confident approach is more goal-oriented.

I like to look it as either going in a straight line vs. zigzagging- either way, you're going to get there.

Confident is a state of mind, however, while learned routines is not. Once you have the routines down as well as muscle memory, it will start becoming your state of mind as well.

Either way, I roll with confidence, but that's not saying I don't know learned routines. It is, generally, good to know things.

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Some people say you need competence to get confidence, but competence takes practice and work. Just skip it and go directly to confidence. That's all women want anyway.

Then as far as routines go? Only memorize and regurgitate, that way you have the best stuff. Memorize at least 15 possible answers for any objection. Stick with the material, do not deviate.

Stay positive. Work at it. You can do it.

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