ok so this is about the girl i been trying to game for awhile, i don't want to start on other woman until i get her because shes a HB9

heres the situation: (setting: highschool)
-she likes me, but i can never foward the relationship because i think she has a boyfriend

heres some questions i need answered:
- i only have her in one of my classes except lunch, but in that class she always wants me to sit next to her because i put off a good vibe, but she never gives me her phone # or wants to hang out, she replies with stuff like this "I don't know, i might be doing something on the weekend" or "I might have plans with (best friend) so i don't know", so how do i go about getting her number without making up total BS?
i tried getting her # by telling her to come shopping with me, but she made the excuse again, "I don't know, i gotta see if i have plans" )

-2nd question, if i don't talk to her/sit by her, and ignore her in my english class will it make her not like me anymore, or will it make her more attracted to me? (i just don't want to fuck it up)

-oh yeah 1 last thing, i don't know how to get in a talking mood withing like 5 mins with her (talking as in INFO gathering mood ex: whats your relationship situation, what art do you do, etc...) mostly because the whole class can hear me and someone will interupt and kill my game....

any advice would be greatly appreciated.... [/b]

Ok here are a couple of ideas that i think would work well. They arent really heavy gaming routines but i think some simple things would help you along with her.

1) Try walking into the class with another girl, just walk in chatting away, laughing, feeling/ being totally natural about it. If the girl is hot then that is even better, if she isnt then it doesnt matter.

When you walk in, sit down behind/ next to the girl and still keep chatting loads. Either just be so into the conversation that you dont acknowledge the other HB9 or just give her a quick eye brow raise, sort of signalling "hey".

You have then got to show the other HB9 that you arent going to wait around forever for you, and that you have other options.

Say for example, make plans with another girl. then next time your talking to the HB9, if she raises the weekend/ plans etc.

say

"Well me and Sarah/Jennifer/Nicole etc etc are going to the mall, she wants to help me pick out some new t-shirts. I would have asked you but you always seem to be busy"

Then you could maybe throw in a slight neg like,

"You really should be increasing your social circle" but dont say it in a agressive/ condesending way, just sort of joke about it!

Then maybe she says something......etc....etc.....etc.

Finally you could hit her with "No wonder you dont have a boyfirend"! Joking about it though!

If she says "I do actually" then, " Congratulations!!.........but you dont seem to spend much time together, any reason for that?"

Come on man, you can get this girl!!!!!

k thx for the info ill give it a shot once i have that class again which won't be for til friday or next week because if finals

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I am also in high school and am in a similar situation.

It sounds like you need to establish some social proof. That last thing you want to come off as is needy. Allow her to see you having a good time with another girl it might make her jealous.

If you want to hangout with her on the weekend you might want to suggest an event with a bunch of other people and have some of her friends come as well (if you are friends with any of her friends this will be easy)

If she has a boyfriend that complicates things but you should find out for sure. just come off as the better man and Bitch Thief that! Good luck man.

yeah i got social proof i think, people come up to me and talk to me etc... but i think i still have to flip some attraction switches, which will be hard,

but im gonna try this test on her..

pretty much its gonna go like this, ill sit in a new spot, and she will usually call me over and ill test her as in a convo like this...

her: what are you doing, come sit by me (she usually tells me to sit by her)

me:nope, you're to boring, come out of your box and show me your wild side, and then i might consider sitting next to you, but you can always sit by me (making her make a effort to get up and sit next to me), and if she does ill put on some light kino (i kinda had if with this girl, i either want her or drop her, shes pissing me off )

well guys if this sounds good ill try it, but let me know first...

in my mind asking closed questions is bad or questions that imply that you may not be worthy of her.

"can I have your phone number?" is like "I don't know if I am good enough for you because I'm insecure, am I good enough to have your number"

"do u want to come to town with me? "
Its like putting her on the spot, pushing her into answering there and then.
also could imply> "Hey I'm only going to town so I can use as an excuse to see you and only if you are going."

What I would do:-
"what's your number" is like "yeah i've confident that I'm worthy enough to have your number, what is it"

"I'm going to town on saturday, call me if you wanna meet up"

Its all about comfort building. etc etc.